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August 19, 2008 | 3:21 pm

Top ten reasons for Israel’s poor Olympic performance

Posted by Brad A. Greenberg

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American Jews have had a much better showing at the Olympics than those shlemiels from Israel. (No offense. Some of my best friends are Israelis ...) They’ve yet to medal in Beijing, and Ha’aretz thought such ineptness warranted recapping their Olympians’ top-ten excuses. Here are the top five:

5) Alexandr Shatilov, gymnastics:
“This is the first time I’ve fallen like that.”

4) Alex Ashkenazi, judoka Gal Yekutiel’s coach:
“Gal had a mental problem. Even if he had made the quarterfinal he would have only taken fifth place. It’s not the first time he’s lost the battle for the bronze.”

3) Niki Palli, high jump:
“After I hit 2.20, my leg suddenly started to hurt.”

2) Guy Starik, shooting:
“Right as I was shooting a gust of wind came. I knew right away it would be ninth place. What can you do?”

1) Sergei Weisbrod, Shatilov’s coach:
“It’s all politics. It’s because of the Korean judge - he wants the Asian guy in the final.”

They may not know how to lose graciously, but that’s not entirely the athletes’ fault. Israel’s not really a country that believes it can afford to lose.

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Leave the comedy and national psychoanalysis to Woody Alen, please.

My opinion - Israel simply does not place a priority on supporting amateur sports and its competitors, neither at the national level nor at the private institutional level. Many athletes from other countries have all of their training and expenses subsidized and all practical distractions from training minimized. For them and their sponsors, in view of the commercial outcome it is a business investment. In a way, Israel may be the only country truly fielding amateur athletes in the competition. I’m not saying right or wrong, just a fact. Israel’s athletes are basically on their own.

Furthermore the army requirement consumes the formative years and energy that athletes from other countries devote near-exclusively to their sport.

On the other hand, without those kind of expectations maybe Israel is having the most fun there.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 8/19/08 at 8:06 pm

P.S. After Munich 1972, I think the whole Olympic mystique palled in Israel anyway. I know it did for me.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 8/19/08 at 8:08 pm

Stop being so defensive, you sniveling piece of pig excrement. First, Israelis never asked for, and don’t need some limp wristed frumit making excuses for them, especially since it has less to with their poor showing and more to do with your own pathetic insecurities. Secondly, I happen to know for a fact, that olympic quality athletes in Israel(if they show any real talent)are given deferments.  Yes, I know. Suprisingly enough, they occasionally give those to somebody other than haredi child rapists trying to dodge the draft by claiming “tzaddik” status.

Comment by Shoded Yam on 8/19/08 at 9:27 pm

Right on time, Dr. Tourette.

If you draw upon your old lessons in Dick and Jane, the posting was about making excuses, and my response about a reasonable explanation. I happened to hear another athlete or coach interviewed who complained about the inadequate resources his country provided. Deferments don’t really make it for that purpose and the bar is too high for such a small talent pool.

Ooh! Ooh! Mustn’t contradict a REAL Israeli, or I’ll get the “How sad, how hateful” reaction from Web Mommy. Good thing for you that the only people the Jewish Journal allows Goebbelesque talk about are haredi Jews. How do you know you’re humanist if you can’t dehumanize at least one group to validate all the rest?

Comment by Ben Plonie on 8/20/08 at 3:23 am

The jew does not fight very well either. They were stomped in Lebanon twice, in Georgia and needed the USA in many of their wars to back them up and arm them. Sad pathetic filthy country if you ask me.

Comment by Tom Bowers on 8/21/08 at 8:47 am

Tom,
That is exactly why I responded earlier. As a non-believer in racial theory, I look for an explanation that makes sense. Because on any level playing field the Jews have stomped everyone else, both in the areas of the intellect and in the areas of warfare. Not because the Jews have superior DNA or such, but because they have a superior culture and values and civilization. Do you realize that your obsession with the Jews, a the smallest minority and country on earth makes you a loser? In fact don’t you realize that it tkes a hundred or thousand times the number of Jews to be their enemies? Doesn’t that tell you something about our true power, loser?
Looooooooozerrrr. Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooozzzzzzzzzerrrrr.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 8/21/08 at 7:34 pm

“...If you draw upon your old lessons in Dick and Jane, the posting was about making excuses, and my response about a reasonable explanation…”

The athletes involved are expected to make excuses when they screw up. Indeed as the post illustrates, they are encouraged to do so. They’re motives are understood, you prophylactic with legs. What are your motives, you colostomy bag? What? The usual need of a shtetl yid to vicariously share in the glory whenever a Jew succeds in any area of human endeavour to the point of almost taking credit for it. Then when they fail, you have an almost pathological (not to mention pathetic) need to defend their failure. As usual, this idiotic waste of bandwidth usually ends in something or someone being called an anti-semite.  It is however a refreshing change from the usual disdain aned contempt you exhibit for “goyish” atheletic endeavours when practiced by Jews. This is only worthwhile, as long as the Jew in question serves the purpose of exhibiting Jewish(read Rifkah’s)superiority in the face of gentile competition. Grow up, you piece of sh*t

Comment by Shoded Yam on 8/22/08 at 4:18 pm

You see stupid, The “Dr Tourette” remark would make sense if I randomly and involuntarily blurted out expletives. Note that all of my expletives are entirely focused on you, the parasites of Chelm and your self-serving need to further their agenda. Nothing involuntary or random about it, cupcake.

Comment by Shoded Yam on 8/22/08 at 4:47 pm

It is true that I have a family kind of feeling for Jews in general and am inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt, especially in light of the fact that there really is a problem with a lack of a level playing field. I also feel that I share in the success of Jews to the extent that their success is due to their Jewishness, even in an indirect way.

But that is true of all real Jews anyway. Do you call the Web Guy a shtetl yid because he has an interest in the events of the life of Amy Winehouse for example? Same process. I just can’t figure out what the hell YOU are doing around here.

And there is a spectrum of Tourrette’s within which you fall quite comfortably.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 8/23/08 at 8:28 pm

“...It is true that I have a family kind of feeling for Jews in general”

Thats a lie, which you have illustrated here and in other places. The fact that you choose to spin your sh*t now is largely a function of your inability to take responsibilty for your own words and condition, namely that of an abject parasite and coward.

“...But that is true of all real Jews anyway. Do you call the Web Guy a shtetl yid because he has an interest in the events of the life of Amy Winehouse for example? Same process. I just can’t figure out what the hell YOU are doing around here.”

Considering your well known antipathy towards other Jews that are not of the ghetto, your definition of what a real Jew is or isn’t is irreleveant.

“...Do you call the Web Guy a shtetl yid because he has an interest in the events of the life of Amy Winehouse for example?”

Within the context of taking an inordinate amount of interest in the doings of that drugged out fool soley on the basis of her Judaism, the answer would be yes. However, taking into account the more other-worldly, yafeh-nefesh, aspects of Dennis’s personality, I am more inclined to ignore these opinions as being those of an intellectual lite weight, (his Judaism or lack thereof notwithstanding) who is comfortably ensconced in his estate in Bel Aire, while babbling superficialities passing themselves off as moral judgements. In light of this, a fascination re. the activities of miss wino on the part of wilen, would come as no surprise.

“...I just can’t figure out what the hell YOU are doing around here.”

Sure you can, stupid. I’ve told you several times. Clean the sh*t out of your ears.

Comment by Shoded Yam on 8/24/08 at 9:28 am

Really, I can do without remote personality evaluations from either of you guys.

Comment by The Web Guy on 8/24/08 at 11:16 am

He’s drunk, Dennis. I have figured it out. I don’t know why you cast me in the same order of magnitude as him. I ignore at least 90% of his ad hominem drivel and content myself with showing him up in the realm of ideas. On the other hand, giving him a pass on all the ‘pig excrement’, ‘colostomy bag’, ‘shtetl yid’, menstrual and douche references etc. makes this blog and website just low-rent and hypocritical and dysfunctional. If you were to substitute African and Asian and Messican/Latino and ‘third-world’ every place the psycho refers to Orthodox/Chareidi Jews and me as representative, you would delete every one and ban the perp. It is an unhealthy barometer that this creep with issues that a non-professional at a distance can only speculate upon (although I have a pretty good idea) can rant unchecked. He has not made one single rational valid point in memory other than to insult me.

The ironic thing is that I am not chareidi myself but I fully credit their lifestyle choices and their humanity as many don’t. We may not agree on religious validity but I would have thought that humanity was a no-brainer. Bear in mind the old saying “a liberal is sonmeone too broadminded to take his own side”. Talking about you and the Jewish Journal here, not him. Puts me in mind of an embedded journalist in Iraq seeing a man at the side of the road dying. He started to call for his camera man to document the event and suddenly said to himself - “What am I, nuts? I am here and part of this. I shouldn’t be getting a camera man, I should be getting emergency medical assistance!” Let’s not get carried away with the fictional professional objective journalism crap. If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. I told you this over at the forum but now it’s followed me and you here.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 8/24/08 at 8:07 pm

Stop crying, you racist sack of manure. You’re getting excatly what you deserve. Do you really believe that all of your pseudo-intelectual missives, assertions, and shameful halachic rationalizations for your attitudes and behaviour and that of the rest of the shtetl pig slop are somehow convincing others of the righteousness of your cause? Snap out of it stupid. They may not like me. They may not like my style. But apparently there are enough of them who are silently agreeing with me or at the very least entertained by the well deserved “exteporaneous” thrashing that you receive at my hands. You see, its your arrogance thats your undoing. Clearly, its become obvious to anyone who has wasted the time to wade through any of your self-serving pontifications, (all of your biases, Jewish exceptionalism, intolerance and xenophobia couched in the snake oil of your ecumenical bullshit notwithstanding) that your contempt for Jews who are not your flavor of the month as well as the gentile community is all consuming. You get no respect, because you give none. Btw, I’ve made several valid points. The problem here is that these points are directed at your chicanery and the disgusting behaviour of those you chose to defend. The fact that you lend them no credence is a function of your insecurities and hysteria rather than their validity. One other thing, sweet cheeks. Projecting imaginary substance abuse problems onto others as a means of rationalizing the well deserved (and uncamouflaged) vitriol that is directed at you is the chickensh*t way out. But then again, for the denizens of Chelm (or Fresh Meadows), that would be par for the course.

Comment by Shoded Yam on 8/25/08 at 8:39 am

I don’t remember directing any “douche” references at you, however I am willing to concede that it was an oversight on my part. I’ll try to be more dilligent next time, sweetie. grin

Comment by Shodedyam on 8/25/08 at 9:30 am

I find it mildly interesting that you actually think that your grade-school insults and attempt at beating me to death with electrons is either entertaining or successful. It’s a Catch-22; you are too dumb to understand how dumb you are. I’ll allow that I could be wrong about substance abuse (although your bragging about your pot or hash use makes that allowance unneccesary). I had assumed that after every one of my responses you slink off vowing revenge, gnashing your teeth, possibly kicking a dog. I see now that you may not actually need alcohol to achieve a state of stupor. A word to the wise (or to the fool as the case may be); a battle of wits is not won by the bigger idiot.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 8/25/08 at 12:55 pm

“...I’ll allow that I could be wrong about substance abuse (although your bragging about your pot or hash use makes that allowance unneccesary).”

I alluded to it. I don’t actually remember saying I used. And I certainly don’t remember bragging about it. To the extent that an occasional toke is considered substance abuse by a guy who’s obviously on one or more psychotropic drugs or should be (You know, if you laid off the Kahane Kool-Aide, lithium might not be necessary), this is the State of California. We tend to be somewhat more relaxed about the small stuff (you know, Gay Marraige, casual marijuana use, etc). I actually met a haredi ganga dealer once down in the Fairfax district. I think he was working his way through seminary school.grin Speaking of which, unfortunately for those of the wig and snood set, this west coast laissez-faire attitude does not extend to child rape. What goes over a treat in Boro Park, will get you 20 to life as someones bitch in Pelican Bay. Well at least its something you know about. grin

“...I had assumed that after every one of my responses you slink off vowing revenge, gnashing your teeth, possibly kicking a dog.”

I hate to have to disabuse you of any your fantasies, but as I’ve mentioned on previous occasions when you sought validation for this sort of ego-driven masturbation, your responses are too stupid and agenda driven to generate anything more than some mild flatulence. Whenever that happens, I take a cue from Monty Python and; “fart in your general direction”

Comment by Shoded Yam on 8/25/08 at 2:36 pm

“... word to the wise (or to the fool as the case may be); a battle of wits is not won by the bigger idiot.”

I have to say, your admission about being a big idiot is admirable. Finally, a breakthrough. If your good, maybe we can start reducing the lithium dosage. wink

Comment by Shoded Yam on 8/25/08 at 3:00 pm

How can I know from here if you are a substance abuser? All I can tell from here is that you express yourself in an impaired manner which is as good as if. If you think you have made some valid points anywhere or anytime, they escape me. You dumb down every discussion you stagger into.

In spite of your pretended nonchalance, your actions speak somewhat louder. I have not seen you chime in to respond to anyone else around here, or contribute an opinion other than that I am wrong about something.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 8/25/08 at 6:04 pm

No, really. Is that it? The whole substance abuse thing? You really are a classic New York Jew Boy loser. What the matter cupcake? You felt you had to save face by attempting to turn this into some kind of half-assed popularity contest?

“...If you think you have made some valid points anywhere or anytime, they escape me”

Escape you? Like all other opinions emanating from any source other than your own pie hole, its obvious that they never penetrated the reinforced concrete that comprises your cerebellum and the corrupted grey matter held within. Thats always the problem with concrete. You’re probably retaining water, got too much gravel, and not enough sand. Well Rifkahleh, I’d say thats your life story in a nutshell. grin

“...I have not seen you chime in to respond to anyone else around here”

Sweetie, next time mama bathes you, tell her to take a q-tip and clean the crap out of your ears. I’ve addresed this. You either have a brain like a sieve or you’re in the beginning stages of alzheimers. For the third time. I’m here because I enjoy provoking you. I enjoy watching you get increasingly upset and agitated. Tell me, any heart problems I should know about? wink The part where you whine to the teacher; “he’s picking on me and saying nasty things about you too”  essentially acknowledging you’re a weakling, was entertaining, but not unexpected.

Comment by Shoded Yam on 8/30/08 at 7:41 pm

I don’t think that I win any popularity contests around here. My positions go against the trend of conventional Jewish liberal wisdom (although I actually am personally very tolerant), and I hope to make people with superficial assumptions consider them more thoughtfully and respectfully.

I don’t expect the teacher to actually enforce the Journal’s stated guidlelines for duscussion and participation here. We have been through this on the Forum, which I mostly left to allow you to rampage unimpeded. Interesting that you no longer show up there anymore. But in view of the Journal’s goal of making these pages ‘stickier’, I bet that most people passing through these pages don’t stay long enough to risk getting nipped in the ankle by a yapping attack chihuahua like you. I leave it to the objective reader to decide who is provoked, who is upset and agitated, who is bigoted and intolerant.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 8/30/08 at 8:13 pm

“..or contribute an opinion other than that I am wrong about something.”

Since its obvious that you’re hell bent on monopolizing the discussion here in order to further some demented Kahanist agenda, clearly, like everyone else reading the God Blog, when I want to converse with adults I go to other venues where the posts aren’t the products of low-self-esteem, envy, hubris and arrogance, and the posters don’t throw temper tantrums when they don’t get the validation they seek from others. When I want to watch a Kahane clone, shuck & jive, I come here. wink

Comment by Shoded Yam on 8/30/08 at 8:22 pm

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