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I found your blog by accident. I’m a Palestinian American and I’ll give you some insight into what’s going on here. Although, the difference between Republicans and Dems on foreign policy seems clear in the US, Palestinians don’t really see it that way. Outside of the filter, Palestinians have seen generally no difference between the policies of Democrats and Republicans. If anything, because Democrats are more dependent on Jewish votes, they tend to sound more stridently pro-Israel, and anti-Palestinian than Republicans. Palestinians hated Clinton, but thought Bush 1 was alright because of his stand against loan guarantees in the eighties. They are the ultimate one issue voters.

Comment by joy on 10/07/08 at 1:18 pm

Not surprising, as the Bush/Baker administartion of the eighties is rightly known as the most nastily hostile-to-Israel presidency in history.

I agree that from the uber cynical and paranoid view of the Arabs of YESHA, the differences we see here fade greatly. My own interpretation of the results is that institutions such as institutes and universities are viewed as agents of the intifada, and it has been carefully observed that palestinian support for a candidate can negatively impact his (or her!) image in America. Much as the demographic data on palestinians was fudged to provide ammunition for the expulsionist left, so might these results be shaded at the very least. I would like to learn of their reaction to Sarah Palin’s stated pledge (I still wouldn’t hold my breath) to move the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. Noting that Biden had no script for that one.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 10/07/08 at 4:29 pm

I had another look and noticed your cite for Israelis supporting Obama. I ran accros this on Ynetnews, the English language internet site for Yediot. The ‘Jewish Council for Education and Research’, the same outfit that produced the ‘Great Schlep’, well I’ll let you read it for yourselfhere

Israeli generals duped into supporting Obama

‘Pure and simple deceit,’ says enraged Uzi Dayan of American Jewish group that told him and other top Israeli figures they were being interviewed for documentary on Mideast challenges and found themselves touted as Obama supporters

The Associated Press
etc.

They say they were misled and edited to appear to support Obama, and the film concludes with “The people who have kept Israel alive offer you their choice.”

The Obama campaign responds “If there are individuals who are concerned about how they were portrayed in the film, we’ll talk to them and address their concerns,”

How?

Comment by Ben Plonie on 10/07/08 at 11:39 pm

I think the explanation is simple.

Bush was purely hands off. Obama would push hard for a peace settlement. Muslim extremists believe they will win a war of attrition. With today’s modern, effective weaponry, readily available for a price, they may be right.

Why settle for peace when over time they get can get it all? Obama is a threat for peace.

Comment by zevgadol on 10/31/08 at 9:41 am

I posted this elsewhere but I am quoting it because it is what comes to mind on this issue

... here is a funny article and a true story that explains in plain terms why peace is not the goal in the middle east, but permanent negotiations.

[url=http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/5826]Fowl Bargaining (“If all the world’s experts on peace had raised turkeys on a kibbutz, there might be peace in the Middle East.”)
[/url]

Because when negotiations stop, the parties are faced with the fact that there are irreconcilable differences in their positions. And that is when we go back to (true) history, justice, moral high ground, precedent and so forth which all happen to be in favor of the Jewish position. So the fallback position is to go with Machiavellian self-interest, greed, corruption and so forth which are what constitute the Arab position.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 10/31/08 at 3:03 pm

Messed up the link, (@#$%^& spam filter)Here it is

Comment by Ben Plonie on 10/31/08 at 3:15 pm

It seems, Larry, that, as usual, that no one is talking here. They are merley reciting, almost by rote, the same old mantras that have so polarised the thinking and mindsets of virtually everyone party to this continuing saga of mindless contention.Perhaps it really is time to call a halt to these proceedings, take a well-earned breather, try to find our bearings and then strike out along a route that must lead us all somewhere other than where we seem to be headed at the moment. Which looks an awfully lot like perdition if I’m not wildly mistaken. I shall be telling this with a sighSomewhere ages and ages hence:Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—I took the one less travelled by,And that has made all the difference.‘I suppose the question that remains is this. Do any of us actually want to make a difference or must we resign ourselves to things being much as they have always been?

Comment by Shanti on 3/22/12 at 8:04 am

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