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November 5, 2008 | 1:30 pm

Obama says: What Jewish problem?

Posted by Brad A. Greenberg

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Looks like Barack Obama’s Jewish problem wasn’t a problem after all—unless you think carrying 78 percent of the community’s support a problem.

“The preliminary poll, which is likely to be updated later this evening or tomorrow, has Obama receiving 78 percent of the Jewish vote, to just 21 percent for John McCain,” JTA’s Eric Fingerhut explains. “Kerry garnered 74 percent of the Jewish vote in 2004, and Al Gore won 79 percent of the Jewish vote (with a Jewish running mate) eight years ago. The Jewish vote was 2 percent of the poll sample.”

That’s a remarkable proportion considering only a few weeks ago he was suffering under the 60-percent historic minimum for Democratic candidates. Last week, though, Gallup found 74 percent of Jews planned to vote for Obama. But the extra 4 percentage points suggests that some Jews who last month planned to vote for John McCain changed their mind.

I have no idea what happened, but I’m supposed to try to find out this morning, and to write a story about my travels last night, before lunch, at which point I’ll get back to blogging. There will be, no doubt, so much to say.

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i hope the fact that i faxed over 150 jewish organizations and other jews in florida (i couldn’t schlep)and other swing states,an informative poster i created to help convince them to not let fear and ignorance rule their vote.

Comment by ronnie goodman on 11/05/08 at 3:27 pm

Sorry for your worldview, but I am not driven as much by fear and ignorance as fear of ignorance. What we know of Obama’s past is scanty and not reassuring about his future. For the present? Great voice and style, as long as the teleprompter is working. Maybe that’s enough to achieve world peace and social justice.

But I digress.

There are times when boiling a statistic down to one figure is especially misleading. 78% of the Jewish vote does not say anything about the ‘community’. The AJC survey of Jews, which was a very basic and broad one makes it clear that there is no community for practical purposes. (I could quibble about the proportion of representation on the database used for the survey but that would not be my major quibble.)

Fot the purpose of this blog post, stated or unstated Obama and the party ran not so much on personality or issues but on symbolic value and other intangibles. Very much near the top race in its many manifestations. I maintain that if Obama was white he would not have become a candidate let alone win. For that matter if McCain with his background and record had been black in this atmospheric time he would have kicked his opponent past Pluto. If there is a commonality among Jews it is low prioroty on race-conciousness, leaving the factors of Democratic party, liberal outlook, romanticism in the sweep of the historic opportunity, and unfortunately a followership rather than leadership mentality as determinants.

Treading lightly here (that Omri character would not, at least in his sandbox), in principle it is possible and not really difficult to establish greater and lesser degrees of Jewishness by some basic criteria, beyond the Jewish mother parent self-identification affinity thing. Jews are a nation and sort of culture, but Judaism is an ideology. Whichever side you come down on these contraversial issues, a Jew may or may not be Jewish, and his his or her said opinion by said Jew may not be relevant in Jewish terms.

Cutting to the chase, how do the votes stack up against the respondants against some measure of Jewishness as proposed? Just isolating one less controversial factor against all others, a full 33% of Jews surveyed felt distant to Israel, and another 38% no more than fairly close. (Only 3% in total wanted to have the candidates’ positions on Israel discussed.) Could that total 71% figure relate to the purported 78% Obama voters, making the many other factors more important by default?

Comment by Ben Plonie on 11/05/08 at 4:27 pm

McCain’s choice of Palin as a running mate certainly impacted Jewish voters.  While most of the mainstream media refused to touch these stories, Religious Right researchers, including myself, documented Palin’s extensive ties with the New Apostolic Reformation.  This is a relatively new “post-denominiational denomination” that has been developed through the efforts of C. Peter Wagner, the convening Apostle.  He has formed a network of over 500 Apostles from the U.S. and 42 other countries and each of these Apostles has a network, some with thousands of ministries under their authority. 

Palin’s ties to this movement are indisputable.  Video of her anointing ceremony with Thomas Muthee at Wasilla Assembly of God is widely available. She also commented on Muthee when she returned to Wasilla AoG in June 2008 to speak at the graduation of the Master’s Commission class, a post-highschool program steeped in New Apostolic prophecy and using New Apostolic curriculum. Muthee is a major star in the movement who achieved his fame through the Transformations videos, produced by George Otis,Jr. and Sentinel Group.  The movies are advertised as having been veiwed by 200 million in 70 different languages. Palin also has numerous other ties to the movement including to Mary Glazier, the top Apostle in Alaska.

The Transformations videos are used as a promotional tool to teach spiritual mapping and spiritual warfare to expel territorial demons.  Once the demons are expelled, then the “Spirit-filled” Christians can supposedly take control of communities and nations as demonstrated in the movies.  The leaders of this New Apostolic movement believe that those who are “unsaved” refuse to be evangelized because of the control of demons and generational curses.  Their spiritual mapping and spiritual warfare activities include the spiritual mapping of the Israeli Supreme Court and Knesset which they believe are the “axis of Satan” and controlled by Masonic and Illuminati influence.  Their activities against a demon they call the “Queen of Heaven” are documented in books by Wagner himself. This demon is supposed to be the cause of Catholic and Islamic refusal of evangelical Christian belief.  Ana Mendez, a leading Prophetess claims that one of these spiritual warfare excursions to the Himalayas may have resulted in the death of Mother Theresa.  They have also celebrated the destruction of Catholic and other religious sites as being a result of their prayer and fasting.

The Transformations videos have resulted in hundreds of organizations around the world which present themselves as charitable organizations and “Christian unity” groups while pursuing their spiritual warfare goals.  Many of these organizations are receiving faith-based moneys and are supplanting governmental, secular, and other religious based charities and social services.

While Palin will not be a heartbeat away from the Presidency of the United States, at least for now, this is information that still needs to be publicized.  For more information see the articles, reports, and videos at http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/9/5/114652/6239

Comment by Ruth on 11/06/08 at 4:57 pm

At least it’s not the Jews for a change. You certainly are on the fringe with this. Do you really think that Jews know or care about yet another Witness-oid or Mormon-esque sect in the world? Sure, sure, Palin has ‘ties’ to this and ‘links’ to that, and goes home and dances in Satanic rituals. The fact however is that the Governor of a state in her own hometown does not get to choose which babies to kiss on the way up.

This is another example of printing garbage about Palin first and asking questions later. Here is what I think: Palin still poses a serious political threat to the Democrats, and the campaign against her will remain relentless.

If it was a problem, the first ones to worry about it would be the local Alaska media. I just did a Google news search on this organization and did not turn up even one Alaska source.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 11/12/08 at 1:34 am

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