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June 3, 2009 | 3:55 am

Obama says U.S. could be considered a Muslim country

Posted by Brad A. Greenberg

Remember all the trouble President Obama got in when he said in April that the United States is “not a Christian nation or Jewish nation or Muslim nation?” Well, yesterday morning I heard Obama, speaking with the Washington reporter for the BBC about bringing peace to the Mideast, playing up the Muslim members of his own family and the United States’ large Muslim population. You can watch that interview above. (Thanks for the link, Alice.) Obama reiterated the Muslim population angel in another interview with a French television station.

From The Caucus blog:

In an interview with Laura Haim on Canal Plus, a French television station, Mr. Obama noted that the United States also could be considered as “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.” He sought to downplay the expectations of the speech, but he said he hoped the address would raise awareness about Muslims.

“Now, I think it’s very important to understand that one speech is not going to solve all the problems in the Middle East,” Mr. Obama said. “And so I think expectations should be somewhat modest.”

He previewed several themes and objectives for the speech, which aides said the president intended to tinker with — and rewrite — aboard Air Force One during his 12-hour flight to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

“What I want to do is to create a better dialogue so that the Muslim world understands more effectively how the United States, but also how the West thinks about many of these difficult issues like terrorism, like democracy, to discuss the framework for what’s happened in Iraq and Afghanistan and our outreach to Iran, and also how we view the prospects for peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians,” Mr. Obama said.

The president said the United States and other parts of the Western world “have to educate ourselves more effectively on Islam.”

“And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world,” Mr. Obama said. “And so there’s got to be a better dialogue and a better understanding between the two peoples.”

By that token, I think we’d also have more members of the Baha’i faith than anywhere but Iran and India. And, until recently, the United States was more a Jewish country than Israel. Though, I guess, that one’s still up for debate.

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Barack Quisling Obama has clearly demonstrated that he is functionally delusional. Now it’s clear why he chose Biden as his number two - he didn’t want to go multiball on his own. Throw in Pelosi and Reid and we see that the asylum is in truly expert hands.

Comment by Alice Rage on 6/03/09 at 6:00 am

Why don’t we look at the number of Muslim Americans? The countries in Europe, and Europe as a whole are far bigger, and they don’t come to any real Muslim countries.

It is not entirely amusing to see all of the concerns and fears and predictions we had of Obama during the campaign coming true one by one, uncommented now by those who pooh-pooh’ed them then. Whatever happened to the AIPAC tag-team; the Hillary ‘friend-of-Israel Barbie’, Biden the Zionist, the Baruch ‘Yarmulka-Ken’ Obama doll…

Let’s see “The president said the United States and other parts of the Western world “have to educate ourselves more effectively on Zionism.” No, not Judaism. I don’t care if here is a Seder in the White House while the President bullies Jews out of their house.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 6/03/09 at 6:07 am

Obama is going to sell out Israel. And all the liberal jews that genuflected to him are going to have Jewish blood on their hands. And the depressing thing is that they don’t give a shit.

Comment by Bill Pearlman on 6/03/09 at 8:39 am

Anyone who claims to be Jewish and NOT be at all worried about what B. Hussein Obama said here and has been saying with respect to Iran and Al Queda is not a Jew at all.  All of the Liberal Jews who would back such a man who obviously will choose the next Hitler over protecting the Sovereignty of Israel need to be excommunicated. 

As a Christian, I stand by my Jewish Brothers and Sisters when I say this man is a traitor to America and to Israel.

Comment by Bill Hubert on 6/03/09 at 9:52 pm

Don’t tell me who is a Jew and who isn’t a Jew, Mr. Hubert. I appreciate your sentiment, but I am a REAL Jew with both a mother and father who are Jewish (Kohanim and everything), and I voted for Barack Obama and I am proud AS A JEW to have done so. I weighed everything carefully and I stand by his policy with regard to the Middle East. So with all due respect, do not judge me, lest ye be judged. How dare you say liberal Jews will choose the next Hitler over the sovereignty of Israel, it is through peace that Israel will survive. That is an atrocious thing to say in a fight for peace.

Comment by Lynne on 6/03/09 at 10:32 pm

Lynne,
As a really really real Jew myself, I understand Hubert’s Hitler to refer to Ahmedinejad of Iran, and I agree with him and not you. If you think that voting for Obama was a Jewish thing to do, you prove you don’t comprehend either Obama or Jewish things.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 6/03/09 at 11:10 pm

Lynne:

I’m sure that Karl Heinrich Marx had a pedigree at least as sound as yours.

Comment by Alice Rage on 6/03/09 at 11:27 pm

Ben, are you are a really really super dooper real Jew? You must be extra super special because believe you possess a greater understanding of “Jewish things” than I do. Bravo.

How dare you all sit and smugly proclaim to be the arbiters for all Jews. None of you are holy enough to make that decision for me or anyone else based on our political beliefs. And according to the Israel National News and Jewish Post nearly 80 percent of Jews voted for Obama. So ... go ahead disagree with us, but do NOT question our Jewish faith. The Talmud has arguably caused more arguments among Jews than Obama, but the Talmud also teaches — and I shouldn’t have to point this out to the *real* Jews — that each opinion is to be respected. To tell me I am not a *real* Jew is clearly counter that teaching, and it’s terribly offensive. Though Mr. Hubert gets a pass on that one since he is, in actual fact, not a Jew.

You say that I don’t comprehend Obama. You know nothing about me or about the other hundreds of thousands of Jews who voted for Obama along with me — all across this country. Too bad none of them either read this blog or are brave enough to post a comment.


Rest assured my decision and my vote sit comfortably with my conscience and my Judaism.

Comment by Lynne on 6/04/09 at 2:45 am

Lynne,
Your last one is a riot. You are the one pulling Jew Rank with your parents and Kohanim and everything on poor Hubert, claiming to be arbiters for all Jews on that basis. If most Jews voted for Obama, the breakdown shows that the minority of Jews who know the most and are the most committed to Judaism voted against Obama.

Obama’s policy on the Middle East is to make Israel smaller and weaker and less independent and less capable of defending itself and less meaningful as a representative of Jewish interests and needs and values and of forcibly removing not only more of Israel’s land but the very most original and Jewish of Israel’s land, the so-called (by the Arab occupiers of Trans-Jordan) ‘West bank’ which is the first place of Abraham, Issac and Jacob (and yes, Sarah, Rebecca, Rachel and Leah and Bilhah and Zilpah) and Joseph and Joshua and Caleb and Ruth and Naomi and Samuel and David, the place of their lives and their tombs, all of which are incessantly vandalized and fired upon by Arab gangs prying Jewish fingers and rights off of them.

Obama’s peace is to complete that task; to make the ‘West Bank’ look like Gaza, also home to Jews and no Arabs for centuries but now without one living or dead Jew in it. When you say that you have considered everything carefully you are full of it.

I don’t know about your Judaism, Talmud Girl, but my Judaism is the Judaism of history, of the past, present and future which is loaded with Israel, Zion, the secure dwelling in them and the return to them, the Temple and its service, the restoration of the Temple and its service, the Jewish society and its nature, structure and functioning, the Jewish life and its passages and its conduct. Everybody in the Talmud and since agrees on these. Everybody. There are no fundamental conflicts on these ideas in the Talmud whatsoever, and it is not taught to respect the opinion of anyone undermining them, fools of any type or enemies of Israel. The Talmud is a description of the overwhelming agreement of a people and a civilization on a massive scale, and the process of refining and defining the borders of that system. It is case law, a Jewish form of martial arts, and the art of drawing lines in comprehending the will of God.

My parents are not Kohanim and everything. Here, try the shrimp salad before you go, it’s delicious.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 6/04/09 at 6:29 am

Lynne:

Take a look at what you and your buddy Barack Quisling Obama want to give to the barbarians:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6VYz0aougc&feature=player_embedded

But, it’s not about the land for them. They just want to butcher Jews. And, whether you comprehend it or not, you’re part of the problem not the solution.

Comment by Alice Rage on 6/04/09 at 7:08 am

Lynne, nobody is saying that your not a “real jew”. What they and I are saying is that the survival of Israel is not important to you. And that a a lot of Jewish kids are going to die because of this man. And you, and Jews like you, enabled that.

Comment by bill Pearlman on 6/04/09 at 7:56 am

First, thank you to Ben, Alice and Bill for their support as well as their mutual understanding of what I meant in my post.  It’s encouraging to see well-minded Jews who see things as they are and stand up for what’s right- The Preservation of Israel and the Jewish population around the world. 
Lynne, I appreciate your giving me a “pass” for not being Jewish and I respect your family’s heritage.  But it is in this area of political debate, I feel that you are one of the unfortunately many misguided people who fail to see the anti-semitism and back-door policy the liberals, including Barack Hussein Obama implement on a daily basis.  Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the President of Iran, is the new version of Adolf Hitler because of his well-known anti-semitic views in that A) He vehemently denies the Holocaust ever existed and B) Has stated publicly he wants to wipe Israel off the map.  And if you heard B. Hussein Obama’s speech this morning in Egypt, you will note he encouraged Arab nations to support Arab nations, NOT DEMOCRACY!
Since I started the history kick, I will conclude by saying the last time someone wanted to appease a crazed tyrant through peace was Neville Chamberlain back in Munich 1938.  And, let’s see…um.  How did that work out again?

Comment by Bill Hubert on 6/04/09 at 11:59 am

Mr. Pearlman, some of the commenters very clearly said that liberal Jews are not real Jews, and I resent that. Each side in this struggle has blood on its hands. I look forward to a day when there will be peace. Real, actual peace. And I agree with Obama’s policies toward that end.

The discussion of the protection of Israel and the threats against it are hot-button issues as important as discussion of the Talmud, and my point about the Talmud was not WHAT’S IN IT, but how people, rabbis, scholars, DISCUSS what’s in it. Opinions are raised courteously, attitudes and laws are interpreted with RESPECT for the other’s opinions <——- that’s the important bit there———-> based on thoughtful discussion and not name-calling or judging. I was applying the Talmud as an example of how a discussion of this kind SHOULD be conducted. I’m no Emily Post, but you won’t convince me that you have a valid point when you start by invalidating me.

Mr. Hubert, I’m not afraid of Ahmadinejad. I watched delegation after delegation storm out of a U.N. meeting where he went on a screed filled anti-Semitic rhetoric. Everyone in the world knows this guy’s a wingnut — including Obama. That’s not to say that Ahmadinejad’s own people won’t continue to keep him in power, but what I do know is that the world is watching. It is my hope that they are watching with clearer eyes BECAUSE of the Holocaust. On this point we agree: We must be constantly vigilant. Obama is walking a fine line, but I have real faith that his policies will achieve something his predecessors have failed to do. But I am fully in agreement that we can’t blink when Ahmadinejad uses his public time to empty his spleen about Jews, Israel and his views on the Holocaust.

I know the adage that history is doomed to repeat itself, but I don’t believe that will happen here because of people like you and Mr. Pearlman and Ms. Rage who are vigilant and outspoken, and I appreciate that. What I don’t appreciate is being judged for what I believe. My opinion doesn’t make me any less a Jew than any of you, including you, Mr. Plonie, and that was my point in bringing up that I am Kohanim. I wasn’t rubbing it in anyone’s face. I was simply stating that I am a Jew by all the laws that identify me as a Jew over and above the fact that it is also my faith.

Comment by Lynne on 6/04/09 at 1:00 pm

Lynne:

Your response is troubling for two reasons. First, I sure get sick and tired of the old moral equivalence game: “Each side in this struggle has blood on its hands.”  Your inability or unwillingness to make distinctions is stunning! Yes, blood has been spilt on both sides - they murder us and we kill them. Jews have purposely endangered themselves and often died attempting to accommodate sometimes arbitrary rules of engagement; but, for the barbarian there are no rules. They literally have blood on their hands and relish in it. Start your evening right and watch the Ramallah Lynching of Vadim Nurzhitz and Yossi Avrahami:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1kglhluz1U

Then contrast the barbarian’s behavior with this video of the saga of Dr. Yuval Krieger and Wafa al-Biri:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/8321254#8321254

This extraordinary doctor spent months healing (what the video doesn’t tell you is that her burns were from an attempted honor killing) this idiot and then she tries to kill him in return. Now, have some Jews behaved badly? Certainly, but they are the rare exception. Have the overwhelming majority of Arabs behaved badly?  Most assuredly yes!  It’s in their mother’s milk.  Listen to it not from some raving mullah, but from a truly innocuous source:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Os4pdjtZ0

And all of your wishful thinking and all of Obama’s delusions are not going to change the situation one iota. In fact, your collective fantasies actually exacerbate the condition.  Don’t you see that?

Secondly, your lack of concern, “I don’t believe that will happen here” in the face of devastating evidence to the contrary is equally stunning. Will you be herded into a railway car still waving your World War I Iron Cross at your tormentors in a vain attempt to demonstrate that you’re a loyal German? Oh, that’s right, you don’t have anything to wave except your faith in Obama; but, he’ll be in the same car right there with you.

I’m going to give you a little dose of reality. There are only two places on this earth where Jews are relatively safe.  One, of course, is Israel and the other is the good old USA; but, I can’t vouch for the USA into the indefinite future. So, kiddo, you’d better get off of your pathetic ass and protect Israel with every fiber of your being because the way it looks now they’re gonna be coming for you!

Comment by Alice Rage on 6/04/09 at 3:48 pm

Well, I guess my attempt at injecting civility didn’t work. “Pathetic ass.” That’s nice.

Just don’t judge what kind of Jew I am. Israel’s supporters and detractors come in all stripes. I don’t doubt Mr. Hubert’s Christian faith, and would never say he wasn’t a *real* Christian because of his political beliefs. I would hope he’d extend me the same courtesy. And that was my reason for commenting in the first place.

Comment by Lynne on 6/04/09 at 4:11 pm

Thank you Lynne.  I am all for civility.  And the second part of what you said about Ahmadinejad was more comforting.  He not only should be watched but if the Iranians are not able to remove him for whatever reason and/or are in worship-mode of this guy, then we have a moral obligation to all of our Democratic allies to send his sorry psychotic ass back to Hell from whence it came. 

I may not have Jewish blood.  But I have a special place in my heart for the descendents of Abraham.  It saddens me to see Jews who are constantly shafted by the American Left here and abroad yet there are some who are willing to follow this “Messiah” to the gas chambers without even seeing who they are supporting…and who their real internees are.  Despite the best efforts by the liberal media to villianize President George W. Bush, since 9/11, he succeeded in preventing another attack on our soil.  I know you believe in him.  But the way Obama is going with his foreign policy (and his ‘Bend over and grab the ankles’ tour of Europe and Africa) will mean the eventual destruction of Israel and America.

Comment by Bill Hubert on 6/04/09 at 4:30 pm

I don’t disagree with you on your first point. As to your last sentence, well, I hope that never comes to pass, Mr. Hubert. Interestingly, I know that reformists in Iran are frustrating Ahmadinejad’s bid for re-election by exposing his dirty tricks, and we can only hope they can gain some momentum in the short time they have left before the election.

And thank YOU.

Comment by Lynne on 6/04/09 at 6:22 pm

OK, I read the first few posts and then I decided to write.  Though I hsve to comment on Lynne and her being a more real Jew (a Kohanim, etc)  Psst, the Kohanim are Levites, not Jews, as in seperation of church (religion) and state.  Levites (with Kohanim as a sub-division) represent the religious end and Jews(Judah) are meant to be the political or state leaders.

As far as the U.S. being a Muslim nation, well Islam or Muslim means, ‘in submission to God.’  I have no problem calling myself a Muslim, if that is the definition.  I know all the racism and religious prejudices of the great majority of Westerners towards Muslims makes this concept outrageous.  I would rather live in a Muslim nation than a Christian nation.  I mean the pig-eating, idol-worshipping, pagans who call their bastard selves Christians have NOTHING left to prove.  Psst, the Nazis were ALL products of Christianity and were usually Christians themselves.

Now, Plonie and the other (Ashke)nazi Jews can start their crap.  You will have no impact.  I’m not brain-washed and I know my history.

Comment by The Levite Line on 6/05/09 at 7:04 pm

RE: “I would rather live in a Muslim nation than a Christian nation.”

Don’t let the door hit you on the ass!

Comment by Alice Rage on 6/05/09 at 7:41 pm

Don’t get worked up over The Levite Line, Alice. He can be useful as a stress ball at times, but mostly can be regarded as The God Blog mascot, haunting the corridors and chambers of the Blog in a large chicken costume like the guy at a baseball game. Or think ‘Reverend Jim’ on ‘Taxi’ if you’re old enough to remember him.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 6/07/09 at 2:23 am

Well, Lynne, thank God Alice said ‘pathetic ass’ and gave you an excuse to disregard the rest of her post and let you change the subject. I still say that ‘Jewish blood’ and all that is the weakest argument you can make for being a good Jew. It may make you a real Jew, but not a good Jew.

But let’s not give you an excuse to change the subject again. You say that you are (after all that has happened) “proud AS A JEW to have [voted for Obama]”. This is a good point for discussion. What as a Jew made that a good idea? Aside from blood, is it your faith? My faith directed me otherwise.

You said “I weighed everything carefully and I stand by his policy with regard to the Middle East.” Like, what did you weigh, and what aspects of Obama’s policy would a good Jew stand by?

You say “do not judge me, lest ye be judged.” New Testament, but who’s counting?

Comment by Ben Plonie on 6/07/09 at 2:38 am

Ben:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvn-tBeLpCk

I take your meaning.

Comment by Alice Rage on 6/07/09 at 8:28 am

Gosh! Were they ever that young? Was I? Whoooaa!

I just heard that Obama said there are seven million Muslims in the USA, while no previous estimate has them at more than two to three million. Is there a relationship between that manipulation and the 5-6 million Jews in the USA? Just asking…

Comment by Ben Plonie on 6/07/09 at 5:19 pm

Given the Mohammeden propensity for theft of property, culture (to include Holy books), traditions and identity, it certainly makes sense that they would inflate their 1.5-2 million population in the U.S. in an attempt to counter Jewish influence.  However, given that almost 80% of American Jews have taken leave of their senses, it would seem to be a moot point.

Comment by Alice Rage on 6/07/09 at 5:37 pm

ha.. obama is a fool!

Comment by auto isnurance quotes on 10/25/09 at 9:51 pm

I didn’t realize he said this. I don’t know what to think of it, but I don’t think it is time to clean up the White House yet. I’m sure there’s nothing dirty in what he meant.

Comment by Bosch Vacuum on 1/12/10 at 11:00 pm

What he said makes perfect sense. There are many muslims in the united states. Obama said that the united states is a muslim country, as well as a jewish country and a christian country. We respect all religions in the united states.

Comment by Space Bedding on 1/21/10 at 11:16 pm

Space Bedding says, “We respect all religions in the united states.”  Who the Hell is “We”?  What gives you the right to ever speak for me and tell me what I or any other American respects.  To make these blanket statements that are both arrogant and quite untrue.  That Americans respect non-pagans/Christians is absurd except for those who live in a fairytaleland, like most Jews apparently.  Truth is whatever you like.  If you don’t like it then it can’t be true.  Something like a five or six year old, in other words.

Then as far as respect, what do you even know about Christianity or Islam, that you respect those religions so much.  Ignorance is not respect! It’s people like Space Bedding who just think they’re so smart, saying their safe little complete B.S. and having the nerve to speak for me.  The rest of you can let these losers speak for you, don’t ever think you brain-washed #*&f^f@‘s will ever speak for me and if you dare this is what you will hear until your (Ashke)nazi Jewish gestapo decides to protect you from me.  And they’ve kept y’all safe for so long now.  That is if having your cowardly butts shoved into a gas chamber is safe.

Comment by theleviteline.com on 1/22/10 at 4:17 am

Easy, dude. Space Bedding probably meant to say “We respect all religions in the United States except the ones practiced by tinfoil-hat-wearing weirdos with URL’s for names.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 1/24/10 at 1:09 am

OK, I’ve calmed down now.  LOL.  At least Plonie says, “probably meant” since you don’t actually know, except for what “Space Bedding” said (and what the heck is space bedding?  Is that a company or store or something?) 

Who told you about my tinfoil hat?  Are you with the CIA or the Mossad and have my computer bugged with a camera cause I only wear that thing at home (actually I don’t know which cartoon or comic book that reference comes from).  Like I’ve mentioned to you previously Plonie, I prefer non-fiction to fiction, believe it or not (I suspect you have your doubts).

As far as URL’s for names, now that I strongly suspect refers to me.  Not that the world revolves around me and not that I’m paranoid, well I was paranoid ‘til I realized that people are talking about me, hence I don’t think that would be paranoia, that would be fact.

Another point of fact, mine is not a “religion” it is a covenant and no that is not the same thing.

Comment by theleviteline.com on 1/25/10 at 2:46 am

My covenant can beat up your covenant.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 1/25/10 at 7:35 am

I would never have though the US would ever be though of as Muslim. Is Obama from a Muslim background?

Comment by Disney Channel Games on 5/10/10 at 4:30 am

I know you are just a spambot, but yes, Obama is from a Muslim background. He is probably not a Muslim, but judging by his speech and behavior he has no religion other than Muslim either. He is certainly a Muslim culturally if not by faith.

His father was a Muslim, his brothers are Muslims, he lived as a child in Indonesia and attended a Muslim school, he hung out with Muslims and his best friend in college was a Pakistani Muslim with whom he cruised around and traveled for a visit in Pakistan. This is a very unlikely tourist destination for non-Pakistanis and non-Muslims.

These things are not in dispute. It is less likely that he attended a terrorist training camp in Pakistan but almost certain that he met and interacted with those who did. Come to think of it, he is still doing it.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 5/10/10 at 8:38 am

Now, special to Lynn.

I have given you 17 months to answer my courteous and respectful and civil questions. I have to stop holding my breath now. here they are again:

You say that you are (after all that has happened) “proud AS A JEW to have [voted for Obama]”. This is a good point for discussion. What as a Jew made that a good idea? Aside from blood, is it your faith? My faith directed me otherwise.

You said “I weighed everything carefully and I stand by his policy with regard to the Middle East.” Like, what did you weigh, and what aspects of Obama’s policy would a good Jew stand by?

You say “do not judge me, lest ye be judged.” New Testament, but who’s counting?

You also said:

Mr. Hubert, I’m not afraid of Ahmadinejad. I watched delegation after delegation storm out of a U.N. meeting where he went on a screed filled anti-Semitic rhetoric. Everyone in the world knows this guy’s a wingnut — including Obama… the world is watching… Obama is walking a fine line, but I have real faith that his policies will achieve something his predecessors have failed to do… I know the adage that history is doomed to repeat itself, but I don’t believe that will happen here…

Well, now that all of the real Jews in the America have witnessed Obama’s betrayal of his tough talk on Iran during the campaign and allowing them to obtain and redistribute nuclear technology, and his betrayal and non-civil bullying of Israel, do you have any buyers’ remorse? Will you apologize to the real Jews who repeatedly and accurately warned you (and those of your outlook) what would happen? Will you be activist in reversing and repairing (tikkun olam and all that) the harm you have caused to the Jewish people and to world peace?

Comment by Ben Plonie on 5/10/10 at 8:52 am

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Comment by Watch Fifa Worldcup 2010 Online on 6/29/10 at 9:42 am

I’m sure that Karl Heinrich Marx had a pedigree at least as sound as yours.

Comment by Free torrents on 8/03/10 at 3:05 am

A sound pedigree? Well woof-woof to that.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 8/03/10 at 6:53 am

Obama should clarify this statement ASAP, and explain himself.
I have grown up around conservative fundamentalist christians, they are already paranoid, and this statement will put them over the edge and will always be repeated out of context.

Comment by store on 8/04/10 at 1:44 am

I know obama is not a musalim. just he is probably not a Muslim, but judging by his speech and behavior he has no religion other than Muslim either

Comment by megaupload on 8/14/10 at 10:07 am

Wow, I think he is secretly religious wink

Comment by Pepper Spray on 8/25/10 at 8:59 pm

I’d like to see Obama swear by Allah that he is not a Muslim.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 8/26/10 at 8:48 am

God Bless him if he is a Muslim and I’m sorry to say I feel the opposite if he were a Jew or Christian.  Because as so many of you writing in here and in so many other places, Jews and Christians are just beyond sickening.  I won’t even try to educate or enlighten any of you.  First of all, as Jews many of you act like you already know everything, so it is a complete waste to try and educate or inform people like yourselves.  I also believe in ‘not throwing pearls before swine’.  My variation for Christians is to ‘not throw pearls before swine-eaters.’  Since for most Christians swine is practically a staple of every freakin’ meal and the main course at their pagan feasts where they claim to honor the Jew, Jesus.  And the Jewish cowards respect them, once again based upon ignorance.  Because to learn about Christianity one realizes there is little to respect.  Now children throw your little tantrums and kick and scream.  Now lie down and take your pills.

Comment by theleviteline.com on 8/26/10 at 9:10 am

He better hope God blesses him if he is a Muslim because not even the Democratic Party will bless him if that comes out. Not because of his faith but because he would be shown to be a sneak and a coward and a hypocrite and a liar.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 8/26/10 at 9:23 am

I knew it, I knew it, again I knew it was Plonie.  The self-proclaimed and proud Pharisee there he is gleefully pointing fingers as you sickening excuses for human life constantly do.  Listen you Repubicans and other right-wing creeps won’t determine how Democrats will respond.  The name Barack Hussein Obama, uh it’s pretty clear his religion.  That he’s had to keep it secret only reflects on the intolerance and willful ignorance of SOB’s like you, and the millions of other brain-washed religious zombies who if anyone took a good look at some the complete stupidity that you folks believe and do would, like myself see Islam as great, if only as an escape from your Judeo-Christian (ie. pagan) SICKNESS!

Comment by theleviteline.com on 8/26/10 at 4:00 pm

Does that mean you disagree with me? At this point the decision won’t be ‘Will he run again?’ but ‘Will he finish his first term?’

Comment by Ben Plonie on 8/26/10 at 9:25 pm

The only reason I could imagine for Obama not finishing his first term would be one of the numerous right-wing Jewish or Christian (pagan) psychos assasinating him.  This time we (well I definitely am) are quite well aware of just how evil and psychopathic the right-wing is.

Right up there with your sickness is to project on Democrats what one of the biggest names in the Tea Party flag-waving group of white intolerants, Sarah Palin did.  Yeah she did not finish her term as elected governor of Alaska.  No only the right-wing elects *&#*&‘s like her, then they even consider her for President to continue to make a mockery of this country, the Constitution, God, Jesus, you name it they make a mockery of it.  Now kick and scream like the abused and abusive brats you are.  It won’t work this time.  I for one am on to all your crap on the right.

Comment by theleviteline.com on 8/26/10 at 11:03 pm

Who is this moron at theleviteline.com?!?!?!?!?

Are you seriously saying, after the catastrophe that has been B. Hussein Obama’s term in office, he’d be ANY better than Sarah Palin?!?!?!  A Chimpanzee could’ve run this government better than this “Messiah” of yours. 

And yes.  He will be a only a one-term President.  That is, unless 98% of the “Mongrel” population (see Barry’s appearance on ‘The View’) and ignorant bastards like you continue to guzzle the Kool-Aid on this Obamanation.

Comment by sickofignorance on 8/27/10 at 4:38 am

The implication of what I am saying is that Obama is already a lame duck with nothing to lose. Obama would never be assassinated by the right wing, unless it was a left wing agent provocateur pretending to be right wing. Obama had to know that he might be tapped as a Shahid if all else failed. However I see that as a last resort.

Obama would be instructed by George Soros his handlers to withdraw from the Presidency if total loss of Obamocratic power became imminent. Perhaps he would be bought off by installing him as head of the UN now that Clinton has been outmaneuvered.

Before that would happen there are several alternatives.

- Immigration reform granting thirty million illegals the right to vote Democratic could be rammed through. Hordes of O-bots would then be used to overwhelm the democratic system to remove Presidential term limits and Obama would never have to leave.

- The Ground Zero Mosque might be built before the 2012 election and blown up by the Jihadist/Progressive Complex in a false flag operation intended to trigger the seizing of extraordinary dictatorial powers by Michelle the President against the right wing and seizing control of the internet and broadcast media.

- The mosque might be built to house a nuclear device that would destroy the American financial center, which would also give the President powers to fight ‘domestic’ terror against Islam, maybe Christian Tea Party members of the military. I can see it now:

“President orders immediate inventory of all nuclear fissile materials in US stockpiles. Yep, there’s some missing! And it’s the right amount to blow up the financial center! Let me be clear, we ask for the help of Allah all Americans to find and destroy these villains, whether they are your fathers, your brothers, your sons… Make no mistake - We will not rest until America is safe for Muslims… that is citizens… make that Americans… I mean everyone of ALL persuasions to worship freely!’

Comment by Ben Plonie on 8/27/10 at 4:51 am

I’ll have to get back to you two later.  Yikes.  LOL

Comment by theleviteline.com on 8/27/10 at 1:37 pm

Projection,projection, projection central.  Starting with Mr. Not So Subtle Racist saying “chimpanzee” in relation to Obama.  Oh I know, I’m paranoid, it had nothing to do with race.  Yeah, yeah, yeah and blah, blah, blah.  Try that crap on the other benefit of the doubters.  I no longer have any doubts.  I’ve been around enough white assholes, who from the get-go, like Mr. sickofignorance here, spew their racist, hate-filled rhetoric.  Especially when I see those “beautiful blue-eyes” then I know it’s on and I strongly suspect ur one of those.  And do not think (if ur capable of thinking) that your name-calling or labeling of me will succeed in stifling me.  I will only get nastier, so if you can’t take it and I hope you can’t, then don’t f w/me.

As far as ““Messiah” of yours.”  First of all, unlike you assholes in the Jewish community I already know who my/the Messiah is.  I certainly wouldn’t wait for you or your four-eyed creepy leaders to guide me on that or any other important issue.  The Jewish track record of failure is over 6 million long. 

I didn’t vote for Obama, he’s not my dictator.  I voted for the Democrat and would never vote for a Republican cause I realize this is not a dictatorship and that Democrats try and usually succeed in doing good things in government.  Republicans SUCK!!  They don’t suck in the sexual sense and that may be their real problem.  Not that most halfway intelligent people would want such creeps near their private parts, but I digress.  I’m sure sickofignorance would be a prime example if I would ever have to see his mug.

Yes, sickofignorance is the typical right-wing creep whom most liberals are “shocked” by.  Not me!  Maybe I’m not a liberal.  I’ve seen and heard enough of you creeps and while I know it’s a waste of time to respond to you, cause that mouse trap of a mind of yours blocks out all information and knowledge, calling it ignorance and stupidity.  I will respond for myself and the rare Jew out there with a brain-cell still working after their leaders have told them and they believe that there are no answers, like to the Holocaust.  Not that they don’t have the answers.  No, these arrogant assholes teach you and you accept that there are no answers.  Period.  You folks are beyond sickening.  Hence we get sickofignorance and others projecting ignorance and hate and trying to label others (like me) by their own diseases.  This is the inverted logic of Nazis and (Ashke)nazis, I despise both kinds, especially the (Ashke)nazis the more I see how horrible you people are (Your money does not impress me.  No, I’m not jealous.  LOL)

Comment by theleviteline.com on 8/28/10 at 2:14 pm

JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY!  Where the Hell do you come up with this conspiracy crap Plonie.  Oh yeah, projection, projection, projection cental again.  I won’t even get into the specifics of the fear-mongering you projected there, but now we hear some of what lies behind those four-eyes crouched in darkness.

O-Bots, that’s funny and again PROJECTION, with the all the zombie, religiously brain-washed creeps on the right, you’re the main ‘bots,’ but we on the left, I like to think and hope are working to escape the cowardly, intolerant group-think B.S. that the right-wing zieg heilers demand, or else. 

I repeat what I stated in my previous post, I don’t like Nazis or their willing and self-destructive victims, the (Ashke)nazis.

Comment by theleviteline.com on 8/29/10 at 4:10 pm

Where do I come up with it, you ask? By connecting dots. And coming up with likely scenarios that make sense and explain things.

Which conspiracy should I start with? The war of the Federal Government Occupation Forces have already declared war upon Arizona for attempting to enforce federal law. Illegal immigrants will have formal status in the health care and other legislation, and when they get the vote citizenship will be rendered meaningless. Add prisoners to the mix and you will have a super coalition of the least educated, least aware, least mature, least responsible, least engaged, least sane etc. population voting Democratic. The New York example paves the way for the destruction of term limits.

As to the mosque. Why is the moderate bridge building imam ignoring the bridge destruction he is precipitating? Why did he seek a lower Manhattan location for the mosque/center at all costs? Why is he going on a tour of oil fanatic states rather than a tour of American neighborhoods and groups? Why did he say the project is a success because of the attention it is getting? Wouldn’t it be better to be a little lower-key?

Unless - his constituency is not America or Americans or bridge building. But wouldn’t it be wild and crazy to blow it up just to make a point… too easy. Wouldn’t it be outlandish to place a nuclear bomb in Manhattan… how 9/10 of you.

The point is if you say that scenario is beyond the imagination given Al Qaeda and 9-11 you are lying.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 8/29/10 at 8:27 pm

Yes, normally Obama should clarify this statement as soon as possible and explain the facts.
And even if conservative Christian fundamentalists are a bit paranoid it will not reject them, at least I hope!

Comment by Voyance on 10/08/10 at 6:50 am

I do not want the US to become a muslim nation. I do not want it to be a christian nation. I do not want it to be a jewish nation either. We should not be defined that way. The state should be areligious and colorblind when it comes to how it considers itself (recognizing the obvious diversity in America but not defining itself by any one of those groups). It troubles me when Obama says the US could be the largest muslim nation in the world. That is both pandering and a terrible prospect in my humble opinion. The “muslim world” Obama is describing is one of intolerance and completely against the liberal values of our country. We only have a need for relations with these criminal regimes because of one thing: oil. Russia and the post-Soviet states are not very much aligned with us, and while we still get oil from them, it’s a gamble as we are funding people that go against our interests. Being aligned with the Middle East countries only serves to create a situation in which we have people we get oil from states that we have some leverage over. Another advantage is that some of them have been hit by terrorists as a result of there relations with us, sowing hatred in the countries against the radical minority. Definitely a noble cause. I wish people would recognize how criminal these regimes are and that they corrupt Islam. Have negotiations and relations with them on the basis of pragmatism. But individuals in this country should not have respect for violent, intolerant hijackers of Islam.

Comment by Documentary torrents on 10/18/10 at 4:05 am

During the presidential campaign, Obama said that the United States does not need to elect Sarah Palin with her ideas on increasing its domestic oil supply because many barrels of oil could be saved by checking for proper tire inflation. I can’t understand why this is not being done, unless it is buried somewhere in the 2000 pages of health care reform legislation that will kick in after Obama’s term when he has already fled to hide in Pakistan.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 10/18/10 at 4:27 am

However, given that almost 80% of American Jews have taken leave of their senses, it would seem to be a moot point.  http://www.jocurifotball.org

Comment by marius on 3/21/11 at 7:32 am

I can’t understand why this is not being done, unless it is buried somewhere in the 2000 pages of health care reform legislation that will kick in after Obama’s term when he has already fled to hide in Pakistan.

Comment by marusca91 on 5/09/11 at 5:56 am

Christian fundamentalists are a bit paranoid it will not reject them, at least I hope!

Comment by marusca91 on 5/09/11 at 5:57 am

You have so many comments and I wonder why you never reply to any of them.

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