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October 27, 2009 | 10:00 am

I get anti-Semitic email: the Westboro Baptist files

Posted by Brad A. Greenberg

If you’re familiar with anything about Westboro Baptist Church, it’s likely with something they hate: Jews, gays, soldiers.

An odd group of Kansas “Baptists” who make fundamentalists seem like a bunch of liberals, Westboro operates the Websites JewsKilledJesus.com, GodHatesTheWorld.com and BeastObama.com. They’re best known, though, for GodHatesFags.com

Honestly, I used to think these guys were a creation of the folks at the Onion. They are that out there.

I don’t know how I got on their mailing list, but I get a few emails a week informing me that Westboro is planning to protest “lying,” “hateful,” “covenant breaking,” “faithless” Jews. The email I received Saturday, after Shabbat ended, called out the troops to protest an Overland Park, Kan., synagogue Wednesday. Actually, maybe they wouldn’t call it a protest but a mission. A mission to find “good figs among the filthy, Christ-reject Jews.”

The attached flier continued:

“You have filled modern Jewry with abominations, forsaken God & broken His covenant; He promised you curses for that! You thought the curses of the past
year were bad (financial collapse, Madoff swindle, war in Gaza, Holocaust Museum shooting, Beast Obama in the White House, & more), but you haven’t seen anything yet!”

Wow, somebody really needs to media-train these folks.

Fortunately, the Westboro weirdos don’t get much media attention, at least not in general publication newspapers. Unfortunately, I don’t think that if we all ignore them they’ll just go away.

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The Westboro Baptist Church folks are a bunch of nudniks and they are pretty funny, LOL.

Comment by Rickyrab on 10/28/09 at 6:37 pm

I meant to ask those kooks Gerald Goldberg and Harry Woods if they belonged to that church but I figured it was too complicated to explain what they were to those who didn’t know.

A legitimate question is who is paying for all their airline tickets?

Here is news item about one of their ‘demonstrations’
http://thejewishstar.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/most-hated-family-in-america-visits-great-neck/

Comment by Ben Plonie on 10/29/09 at 11:54 pm

I looked at the link for their visit to Great Neck and I’ve gone to counter-protest them twice, once just a few weeks ago when they protested The Jewish Journal office.  They list their Picket Schedule on their website.  They stood in front of the Catholic Church across from The Jewish Journal building.  They were right on time and left on time.  German-American efficiency.

They obviously have too much time and money to be able to run around the U.S.A. like this.  I saw them protest also at Maimonides Academy in June or July with a couple of their older kids.  I tried after to call the Child Protective Services.  Kids should not have to be exposed to their drivel.  Even if their kids can’t be taken from them, let them waste some time and money on that.  I even suggested to them at the Maimonides protest that their kids need to be in foster care and go to some black family and get the crap beat out of them.  Yeah, the children would have to pay for the parents sins or else it just goes on and on. 

I am serious though, they need to find some reason to stick their pig-noses in their own affairs, obviously their pagan religion does not keep them busy enough.  Unlike Judaism (and Islam) where there are rules and laws that keep people busy enough to not be like these bastards. 

They need to have their little bastard children removed from their homes.  Then they’ll have reason to hate Jews and not over Jesus, as if they give one damn about him or any other Jew.

Before you start Plonie, give your drivelly comments to yourself.  Not interested in your brain-washed drivel either.

Comment by theleviteline.com on 10/31/09 at 8:19 pm

Aye aye, Captain Video!

Too bad, I have already started my drivelly comments. But details aside, on what basis do you disagree with the Westboro Baptists? You come across just like them.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 11/01/09 at 11:50 pm

They seem to hate all Jews, as well as most Christians, all gays, and well just about everyone.  As for me, it’s pretty much just Orthodox Jews that I can’t stand (I didn’t say hate, though I’m sure you and your ilk will), and Christianity as opposed to Christians.  I know shades of grey are too tough for you brain-washed folks to comprehend.  I don’t suppose that you’re an Orthodox Jew ru?

As far as coming across just like them,  funny I was going to say the same thing about you.  I’m certainly suspect that you’re toe to toe on their God Hates Fags stuff, even if you or your rabbi are gettin it in some West Hollywood alley, or maybe doing like the Catholic priests, who I know you respect.  As long as nobody knows your secret’s safe with me.  LOL.

Comment by theleviteline.com on 11/02/09 at 2:04 am

Yes, I am Orthodox. That makes me objective, not brain-washed. All that means is that I accept the direct personal and historic record of my people and have the humility to use it and live it and make sense of it. I maintain that God is who he says he is, wants what he says he wants, likes and dislikes what he says he likes and dislikes; that’s all. Anything else is sophistry. What is simple and direct is simple and direct; what is obscure and mysterious takes more of a challenge; but the only article of faith is that God’s word and will are good and true and beneficial.

In that vein, my view is that God does not hate ‘fags’, because God did not create ‘fags’. God created humanity as a divine overlay on a physical being and tasked them with remaining human and not reverting to their physical animal nature. And made it clear that the task was not beyond them - Gen 4:6-7 6 And the LORD said unto Cain: ‘Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? 7 If thou doest well, shall it not be lifted up? and if thou doest not well, sin coucheth at the door; and unto thee is its desire, but thou mayest rule over it.’ Rather than hear that voice, Cain killed his brother and some others seek unnatural intimacy and novel sexual experiences that diminish God’s imprint on humanity and increase the inner beast.

I and the Jews are not God or God’s enforcers or policemen in the world, only in God’s land and society and people. If you want to know God’suncorrupted word and will, come to the Orthodox Jews. If not, have a nice day.

But what you have in common with the Westboro Baptistst is that wacky juvenile judgmental quality. What’s your theology - ‘Plan 9 From Outer Space’? Screaming about ‘pig-eating’ at every opportunity like Joann Worley used to scream ‘Chicken’ at odd moments in Rowen and Martin’s ‘Laugh-In’ (Don’t tell me, I know it was before your time. I’m sure there are plenty of familiar examples)? God created pigs as food fo man. Not Jews of course who are a kingdom of priests and a holy nation, but there isnothing wrong with you eating a pig.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 11/02/09 at 1:25 pm

One of these days I’ll respond to your usual drivel, but not today.  You say humility and display your usual arrogance, which by the way is the opposite of humility.  I’m sure you know that, cause of course folks like you know everything.  One more reason I find you so sickening.  I guess I’m just jealous cause I don’t know everything.  Go figure.

Comment by theleviteline.com on 11/05/09 at 2:32 am

Hurry up, I’m holding my breath. You couldn’t respond even when I address you with half my IQ tied behind my back.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 11/08/09 at 11:54 pm

Believe it or not, I have a life outside of this nonsense.  Besides I know I’m wasting my time responded to know-it-alls.  Also your stuff will take some deciphering again this time.  The usual self-righteousness, the not so subtle homophobia or ridiculous and childish denial of homosexuality as even existing. 

The usual see no evil immaturity of the Jewish community.  That’s how people like you either end up in gas chambers or in your case probably would assist the Nazis in doing so and even think yourself justified.  Been watching JLTV today and seeing part of the 24 hour Kristallnacht Marathon of Jewish (Ashke)nazi victimhood.  Part of the see, hear, speak no evil nonsense.

But as far as Joann Worley, I grew up watching Laugh In and in fact recently received a gift of a 3 CD set of Laugh In.  Loved that show and especially Joann Worley and her laugh.  Maybe my “pig-eating pagans” comments takes a little from her character, ‘cept I ain’t jokin’.  Jokin’ time ended a Jew number one million.

I guess I’ll respond in parcels.  I just hope other people read this, though if they’re Orthodox I’m certain I have zero impact on these other know-it-alls… but u never know…

By the way Brad and u Plonie, I keep gettin’ long-winded e-mails from Gerald none of which I have had time to read, though some look kind of interesting.  Of course he seems to be out to attack Jews on every point.

Comment by theleviteline.com on 11/09/09 at 12:36 am

Another deft cop-out to dealing with real-world communication. The only people you might have an ‘impact on’ are deranged obsessive fruitcakes like Gerald. Flies atrracted to dung come to mind.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 11/10/09 at 1:47 am

With Jew haters like this pathetic bunch, why turn on each other? Egos aside, why can’t we all put our differences aside and as Jews talk about the rise of global antisemitic incidents? It’s bound to affect us all.

Comment by avi on 11/15/09 at 7:17 pm

“Why turn on each other?” says Avi.  I’ve dealt with Plonie and his ilk long enough to see no other choice.  Besides as anyone with a morsel of a brain could conclude obviously the Jews don’t know what the Hell they are doing and from what I see most don’t want to know either.  No y’all are impressed with phonies who ACT like they know what they’re doing.  How the hell else do you have 6 freakin’ million people practically walk into gas chambers.  No you folks, in my conclusion are everything they say you are.  It is a community I am embarrassed to have any connection to, but a connection I do have.  So while most of you wanna kiss each others butts, I’d rather tell the majority of you that you really suck, because you do.  I’m tired of the excuses.  You do everything to make people hate you and then pretend to ask, “Why?”  Because of what you say and do, that is why.  So either quit whining or do something.

I went to see Debra Wasserman-Schultz at USC and well once again the stupidity, intolerance and nastiness of the Jewish community shone through for me again.  That and brain-washed Orthodox like Plonie and you’re all just sitting ducks and red-meat for heathens like the Westboro Baptist Church folk.  But you wouldn’t have it any other way.  Professional victims, that is what you are.

Comment by theleviteline.com on 11/16/09 at 3:03 am

It’s a little uncomfortable for me to have you harp on your obsession with my ilk. A witty euphemism, but I happen to be straight and married besides.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 11/16/09 at 11:04 pm

‘Elk’, I would understand.

Comment by Ben Plonie on 11/17/09 at 7:19 am

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