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since when has God been a Republican?  it is so sad how many evangelicals have allowed politics to mix with faith rather than allow faith to inform their politics.  i don’t know if you read it, but the evangelical manifesto written by amongst others Dallas Willard, Os Guinness, David Neff (editor in chief of Christianity Today), etc. 

http://www.anevangelicalmanifesto.com/

This is a great resource for how we should incorporate our faith with politics, not the way Mike Huckabee pimps evangelicals.

Comment by ethan on 10/07/08 at 7:52 pm

This article and the first comment seem to be victims of the Media that has painted the brush of Governor Huckabee being a Pastor first and Statesman second.  Ethan, your wish for Faith informing our political system is exactly where Governor Huckabee comes from and to.  Having spent near a year in his Campaign, I found Governor Huckabee to be the one voice who spoke in every turn and on every issue grounded in the principles found from Faith in God. 

Governor Huckabee is not pimping Evangelicals, but he is trying to unite the Judeo/Christian into a voting Coalition which will bring our Nation back to it’s moral compass by following the Constitution and Faith Principles.  Had this author not gossiped about the Huckabee’ show on fox shown every Saturday and Sunday at 8PM, he would know that Governor Huckabee has We the People front and center in his approach and exposure of our Federal Government. 

Why is it so important for people of Faith to say that their way is the only way and anyone else is pushing their religion?  We are all of the same page, some closer to the mountaintop, but none are walking on water.  Governor Huckabee is putting himself through the hell of politics for US!!!

Those 5 read meat issues are all superb goals.  How can anyone of Faith say otherwise.  Remember, we are all humans and must all bump shoulders to stay the course.  Society depends on it for survival.  As to one’s soul, that is a personal issue.  Deal with it by looking up every day.

Comment by RGeorgeDunn on 10/07/08 at 8:32 pm

Seems the media is determined to criticize Governor Huckabee when he is the politician who makes MORE sense than all the others put together. He has always been about the core Republican platforms and that has not changed. Try watching his show and you will learn a lot.  Maybe you can write with a little more fact and a little less hearsay.

Comment by Linda on 10/07/08 at 10:26 pm

RGeorgeDunn,
I appreciate your comments.  I am glad to see that you support Governor Huckabee, especially with your inside view.

I am a staunch conservative evangelical…and I have found it more and more difficult to find an identity within the current political system.  Most of my political views are shaped more by Jewish Economists (see Milton Friedman) than by Jesus.  I am against legislating morality (though I will always vote for my belief system).

I guess what I am trying to say, is that I am afraid of the word ‘coalition.’  I don’t like the idea of feeling like we need to unite as judeo/christians in our pursuit of anything political.  I think we should unite as Christians in our pursuit of our faith…the side effect will be it’s effect on our legislation as we all vote our honest conscience.  I am really afraid of telling anyone what to vote for.  And contrary to your belief, my faith informs me that society does not depend on us for survival.

That is why I linked the evangelical manifesto.  It outlines a great way for evangelicals to involve themselves in politics.

Comment by ethan on 10/08/08 at 12:27 am

Look at history and it will reveal that when the foundation of a society has it’s moral pillars removed, it does not survive.  The Old Testament, Torah, reveals this truth also. 

The Founding Fathers, in order to form a more perfect Union, held to certain inalienable rights as not necessary to put in writing.  When these truths become not self evident, all is lost.  In order to protect these rights, the Founders established a Government ruled by Representatives who would vote their conscience, not demanding a worship of any specific Faith, but to by majority rule declare certain principles as the Law of the Land.  When it becomes necessary for a Truth to be put into a written Law, it is legislated.  All Law is based on a truth or a moral attribute, all.  Therefore legislating morality is not only proper, but it is reality, for without it we have anarchy.  I have read the Evangelical Manifesto a while back when a question of identity of the use of the term evangelical was questioned.  It is a specific walk of life and not one necessary for holding to Christ and His Ways, but is not harmful nor should it be dissuaded from. 

Judeo belief is of the same truth of God as Christian with the exception of Christ and who he is.  Before 1200 AD Islam was also of the Old Testament Ways.  Now in today’s reality we find Secularism sweeping all Faiths and the attitude of forgiveness being reflected from sin, holding morals as the unforgiven decay, all for the sake of not legislating morality. 

Freedom is choosing and being responsible with freedom is choosing wisely.  Let us unite in the premise of these truths and form a more perfect union, a coalition of harmony as a healthy society with it’s foundation in tact and our future one in prosperity of life.

Comment by R. George Dunn on 10/08/08 at 2:23 am

You know, this is pure slander of Huckabee. Who “doctored” the photo you came up with?

Not believing this at all,
Linda Miller

Comment by Linda Miller on 10/08/08 at 11:12 am

Dunn,

again you bring up fantastic points.  i especially like how you linked legislation to morality, that is a shrewd point, and well taken.

i think this is where i will disagree with you.  when i said that ‘society does not depend on us for survival.’ i should be clearer about my purpose.

i think you hit the nail on the head that society will indeed unravel when there is a vacuum of morality…and so people of faith or secularists with strong ethics should voice their opinion and turn into law those issues that best uphold a strong society.

however, as an evangelical Christian, my top priorities are not upholding society.  Not to say I should ignore society, but it is not the at the top of the list.  At the top are my own personal faith, living that faith out consistently, loving others as myself, and being a witness to others regarding my faith.  What is interesting to note is that while I absolutely love the freedoms I enjoy in our wonderful pro-free speech democracy; historically, Christians have been much more effective in focusing on those top priorities in times of crisis/oppression.  The Christian faith is growing the most, not in the US where there is freedom, but in China where there is not.  This is an interesting lesson to the evangelicals here, as we get caught up in our democracy and start believing that God’s government is democracy and not communism (i think they are both wrong; theocracy will always be His way; but as busted sinful people, that is not part of our reality).  We need to let go of our tight grip on this democracy and transcend it.

Comment by ethan on 10/08/08 at 1:07 pm

Not sure, Linda. Found it on the Net. I believe the torso, as I noted, belongs to Chuck Norris. The photo is not, however, slander because it is obviously parody. That would be inline with—and I know I’m opening a can of worms citing this case—Hustler Magazine v. Falwell.

Comment by Brad A. Greenberg on 10/08/08 at 1:23 pm

Hey, Mr. Huck has got my $25.00.

Comment by Harold Johnson on 10/08/08 at 5:30 pm

Ethan, your point of the true evangelizing is clearly the ultimate calling fo every Christian.  But the being of a Christian or of any Faith is the fruit one bears in doing so.  The founding Fathers have made we the People the Ceasar and thus we are responsible to God to bring forth a Society based on His Principles.  To not vote or to stand up on issues is in essence sin.

It is our responsibility to stand for Truth in a society that is amoral and freedom given to espouse sin as acceptable.  Greater is the challenge in a reprobate free society to lead to the Father.  Better for you to be cold or hot, for it you are luke warm, I spit you out of my mouth.  Apathy is the greatest darkness of all as it does more harm to God’s Haven then that of a murderer.

Evangelizing is a one on one expereince and only those led by the Lord will be reached.  YOu must be ready in season and out of season and most of all , you must be doing the Will of God in all you do to be a true plowman, seeder or harvestor for God.

Comment by RGeorgeDunn on 10/08/08 at 6:08 pm

Ethan, Dunn:
You two sound a bit like listening to Peter and Paul.

Comment by tk on 10/11/08 at 11:04 pm

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