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December 15, 2008 | 2:30 am
Posted by Brad A. Greenberg

Photo of Madoff, 1999: AP
The mess caused by Bernard Madoff’s alleged $17 billion Ponzi scheme is much worse for American Jews than I thought. Originally, I assumed it would give fodder to anti-Semites along the lines of the financial meltdown. Turns out Madoff’s hedge fund was backed heavily by Jewish individuals, institutions and organizations. At least two foundations have already closed their doors. We’re talking less than four days since the story broke.
I’m looking right now at how this will shake out for the Los Angeles Jewish community. Early indications are that the hit will be big.
For one, the Jewish Community Foundation, which manages the endowments for a number of major Jewish institutions, had invested $18 million with Madoff. At the end of October, that investment, mostly made years ago, was valued at $25.5 million. Today it is essentially a big fat goose egg. And I’ve heard the story is the same for a number of salt-of-the-earth members of the Jewish community, many of whom had invested the bulk of their savings with Madoff.
Madoff was, reportedly, an affable, intelligent guy. He was incredibly well-respected here in Los Angeles and even more so back east. At the end of the day, he was a salesman, and what he sold were returns good enough to keep folks happy but not so good that they grew suspicious.
The Jewish Community Foundation, like, I imagine, thousands of others, has retained counsel and is weighing its options. However, the Wall Street Journal reports that investors are unlikely to recover their losses—and that those who got their money back from Madoff previously may have to surrender any gains they received.
It seems we’ve only scratched the surface of the shake out in—or better yet, shakedown of—the Jewish community.
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That “macher” could, and should, go f—- himself. To equate a bunch of billionaires being left destitute with just one hundred million to their name with the Holocaust is one of the most disgusting things I’ve ever heard. May only horrible things happen to that Macher. And SHAME on you guys for publishing him in such a way as to give his disgusting words any credence.
Bernie Madoff is a hero. He made “machers” like the above-mentioned a—hole stop and think for a minute. May “machers” such as himself and others lose ALL of their wealth. Amen.
mnuez
In every country they have ever lived in many Jews have tended to be white-collar criminals. That is an indisputable fact.
Somewhere between 40-50% of America’s billionaires are ethnic Jews even though they are only 2-3% of the the overall population - that makes me wonder how many other Madoffs are lurking amongst these people…
ha ha bad luck to you all…..Bernie just made off with all your scheckles..
ne
Let’s see now…...when something bad happens, let’s pull out the “h” card. As an American (non-jew by the way)I can only say, please stop. I’m tired of reading/hearing about it in the mainstream media. If jews can’t let it go, perhaps keep it in their own forums. There’s been many acts of genocide upon many undeserving, jews seem to think they’re the only ones to have ever been persecuted.
Bernie Madoff just happened to get caught, perpetrating this “alone”, I think not. It will be interesting to see if others are found to be accountable- time will tell.
It is not the end of the Jews, it is just money. Money comes and money goes, nothing new about that.
The problem is that money worship had replaced religion and that was asking for Divine trouble.
Think of all the poor Jews who could have been helped with a bit of anonymous charity if the Jewish community had invested in people more than in investment papers sold by this sheister.
If there is fodder in this - it is fodder for thought about actions and what we worship. Judaism is a religion that worships G-d, it is not a culture adoring money and fashion.
We get trouble every time we, as a people, forget this fact about Judaism. Check history, happens over and over.
Judaism is a religion, it is not a culture and it is not a social club.
I seriously doubt that the Madoff acandal will get the press and demonization by Democrats like the Enron and Worldcom scandal. Why? Well, it appears that many of the perps and victims were wealthy Jews and very likely liberal Democrats. Follow the money and see how much went to Democrat politicians and Obama—won’t happen. Jack
Jack, your comment already rings true. In this mornings Boston Globe there was no mention of the Madoff incident- go figure. A highly liberal/jewish slanted paper had nothing to write about a liberal democrat supporter gone astray. I followed the money & couldn’t find any going to the republicans (not that there’s anything wrong with that), but ALL of the donations were to the dem’s.
I expect to see some handwringing in the Globe soon regarding the Lappin Foundation though…...racist non-profit organization that they are(against inter-marriage & assimulation).
To the jews on this board:
Don’t be afraid or feel ashamed of what self hating Jews, like Greenberg, and Jew haters are saying. Despite the Madoff allegation we still are the smartest, the most moral, and the most accomplished people in the world, by far. And remember that the jew haters hate us so much because they fear us, because of what, as a people we have done and what we can do.
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Jewish intellectual superiority is a fact. Facts are not racist. You can critique it for yourself:
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/jewish-genius-10855?page=all
Jewish moral superiority is also a fact:
Total Jewish population - 2.2%
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/usjewpop.html
Jewish prison population 1.77%
http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm
That means Jews are under represented by 20%. Muslims over represented by 400%, Catholics over represented by 200% etc…
Jews win almost one third of all Nobel prizes even though we are less than 1% of the world population, so that means we use our smarts for the good of mankind.
Be strong, be proud, and ignore the self hating Jews, and the Jew haters. When you are jewish, you have royal blood in your veins (King David).
I guess everyone on this thread is afraid to argue facts, but thats what happens when facts are not on your side.
Martini, I prefer the designation “not a Jew by choice.”
Actually, anyone who reads this blog regularly knows that what I am is quite complicated but that what I am not is a self-hating Jew. Thanks for visiting.
Then Greenberg, marry a non Jew if you haven’t already, and raise your kids gentile (which they would be anyways). Then you can effectuate your choice. Problem solved. In the meantime what is the purpose of your Blog? We all know madoff is Jewish and we can read the news for ourselves. What do you add to the discussion ? That another putz like you says something so stupid, that Madoff will cause more Jews to die than Hitler ? I have more respect by far for someone like EZRA, than you.
LOL its about time these damn Jews lose the money made by the unappreciated christians. Is speilberg going to make a movie about the annointed jew who stole all the jews money ? if it was a wasp it would be ready for easter release. i think this is the funniest thing i have ever seen. Jews stealing from jews. the rest of know what that is they have been doing it the world forever.
One thing is certain, you are a douche martini.
Julie, I don’t think Mr. Madoff had any particular group in mind when he undertook this endeavor. It just happened to be the circle he ran in, I don’t think he singled any one group out. Also, for your information jews also make money for other jews, are they unappreciated also? I think Rachel-Dina is right in the respect that it was a social club taking the hit, religion(whoevers….), being an innocent bystander that got caught in the maelstrom.
When Mr. Martini (aka- the douche)thinks of morality & Jews, does he conveniently forget about Nina Hartley, Ron Jeremy, Seymour Butts (real name escapes me),etc? I don’t think I’d want my kids aspiring to have similar morals. But that’s just me.
All these people who ran after the “intellectually superior” Madoff (by blood of course; although any cursory reading of the Bible would have you wonder how anyone could argue that ALL Jews are descended from David) are now feeling the pinch.
I see these comments have drifted into soft anti-Semitism.
Brian, while I disapprove of Martini’s racial and religious snobbery, the logic of your argument against the morality of Jews, based on a few Jewish porn stars, is so vacuous it’s comical. You know, Jenna Jameson claims to be a good Catholic girl, but that doesn’t reflect on all Catholics; R Kelly is a deviant, but that doesn’t mean all black singers are deviants; George Bush is a less-than-genius white man from Texas, but I know a lot of really intelligent white guys from Texas. A part doesn’t not represent the whole.
As for Jon and Julie, please take your hate elsewhere.
“We [Jews] are a parasitic people. We have no roots in the soil, there is no ground beneath our feet. And we are parasites not only in an economic sense, but in spirit, in thought, in poetry, in literature, and in our virtues, our ideals, our higher human aspirations. Every alien movement sweeps us along, every wind in the world carries us. We in ourselves are almost non-existent, so of course we are nothing in the eyes of other people either.” - Zionist Aaron David Gordon
Brad, its not one of my better aguments I’ll agree, perhaps I should have included Mr Milken and others like Mr. Kellys whose ” judgement” lapsed. But since Mr. Martini is so pious, I thought I would counter with my vacuousness. Shame on me.
The juxtaposition is fair enough. My problem is that you are attacking values that mean a lot to a group of people by showcasing individual members of that group who did not live up to those values.
By that measure, every Christian would be a judgment against Christianity, because no Christian can live up to Christian values. That is, after all, the message of the Gospels.
Brad, I know I’m reaching here, but by that, are Mr. Martini’s points valid if he uses percentages verses others? Why not compare apples to apples? I’ll end it by saying I don’t feel as though I’m superior to anyone, and am usually hardest on myself. I understand that I’m on a religious based forum, but whatever transgressions Mr. Madoff foisted on others, I don’t believe it was directed @ jews. Nor should it take anything away from being jewish, but to be exclusionary brings more harm than good.
Of course Rachel-Dina’s comment is nice and deserves kudos, but I want to offer my DEEPEST bow to Martini (I’m the aboriginal commentor, by the way).
I surely agree with the anti-semites that prostituting the Holocaust for every billionaire who loses a few million is a repulsive travesty that testifies to that person’s sleazy character, but that doesn’t mean that I stand with them against the Jews. Antisemites are abundant, partially by OUR fault, but entirely of THEIR fault. We can recognize that not everything they say about Jews is inaccurate while simultaneously calling them to their faces the pitiful half-humans that they are.
Again, Martini, a deep bow to you.
mnuez
P.S. I don’t know who this Greenberg character is but if by “not a Jew by choice” he’s referring to his religious beliefs then I respect his stance, if however he means to say that he’s decided that he’s ETHNICALLY not Jewish, then he’s a very funny man. If there’s a category of Jews who history has recognized as THE MOST STEREOTYPICALLY Jewish and who repeatedly find themselves invited to pogroms being held “for Jews only”, it’s these ostrich types who believe that pronouncing themselves “not a Jew by choice!” actually makes them such in ANYBODY’S eyes but their own tightly shut ones.
The Riddle of the Jews’ Success
“I think the strongest anti-Semitism sometimes exists among Jews. To this day a German Jew often hates Russian or Polish Jews. There are German-Jewish clubs around this country that did not allow Russian or Polish Jews when they first started. Some have relented a little, but not all. I’m sure that when Hitler started, many German Jews didn’t mind what he did to other Jews. They didn’t expect him to turn on them. Isn’t it ridiculous? But if anti-Semitism can exist among Jews, why shouldn’t it exist among others?”—- actor Kirk Douglas (neé Issur Danielovitch, son of Russian-Jewish immigrants), The Ragman’s Son - An Autobiography, p. 23 (Pocket Books: New York, 1989)
A Classic book you should read for research you can get from AMAZON:
The Riddle of the Jew’s Success F. Roderich-Stoltheim (Theodor Fritsch)
Hitler’s Favorite book? Maybe! But definitely one of Hitler’s favorite writers. This author influenced the psyche of MILLIONS of people from the 1890s thru 1945. ESPECIALLY THE NAZI PARTY… He died in 1934. The book was sanctioned in Nazi schools. This book is translated from German by Capel Pownall in 1927.
Oddly, it was published in English in Germany!
THEN over 99% of this book’s inventory was burned by the allies after the war. Proof enough, of its power in making people think on the “Jewish Question”.
Needless to say, this book is extremely scarce. You will find the remaining copies at all the Ivy League Colleges and some major universities. It is too taboo to find it in a public library. One of the most politically incorrect research books you will ever read. Extremely well written…
Excerpt:
From the Preface:
“If there are riddles in the history of the nations, then the Jews most certainly present one of the chief instances; and, whoever has occupied himself with the problems of humanity, without advancing so far as the great problem of the Jews, has, so far as knowledge and experience of life are concerned, merely skimmed the surface of the subject. There is scarcely a field, from Art and Literature to Religion and Political Economy, from Politics to the most secret domains of sensuality and criminality, in which the influence of the Jewish spirit and of the Jewish entity cannot be clearly traced, and has not imparted a peculiar warp or trend to the affairs in question.”
Of all the idiotic comments on this board it has to go to “not Jew by choice: Greenberg. His moronic quote is:
“I see these comments have drifted into soft anti-Semitism.” Either Greenberg is the biggest moron in the world, or he is a liar. I suspect he is a liar slightly more than a moron. Of course Greenberg knew this innane blog would incite Jew hating. But the joke is on the Jew haters and the self hating Jews, such as Greenberg and Heil Heller.
Jew hating filth like Karin, and Julie and Kyle , and Zionist, and EZRA, help Jews and Judaism more than anything else. It makes more of us strong, it makes more of us more cohesive, it unites many of us that would not otherwise be united. It is no coincidence that Israel was forged from Jew hating and the Holocaust. If the Jew haters had half a brain, they would welcome the Jews as equals, because thats what the Hellinists did, and they succeded in destroying the Jews more than any other enemy, including the nazis (The Hellenists aloowed the Jews to live as Jews and practice their religion mostly, but insisted on Jews accepting science and logic and reasoning, and acknowledge religion as a quaint superstitous ritual).
So to the Jew haters, I say bring it on. Do not accept us, any of us, because like good sheepdogs, you help keep the strays in the pack.
And Karin, a gooten Seig Heil to you. Let the Jews know that it is not about a two state solution, but about “palestine” being Judenrein (jew free). Good for you.I bet you get sexually aroused thinking about murdering the infirm Jewish stragglers that would have a hard time moving fast enough to New Jersey. Are you practicing your “mach Shnell” and Schneller Shweiner, and arebeit macht frei ?
Problem is Herr Karin, a country like Israel, with more than a few dozen nukes is not so easy to defeat, so your bloodlust may have to be confined to murder more limmited in scope.
I landed here while googling Madoff and I just have to comment on this ...Comment by Martini H. Leaf..about the superiority of the Jews…..
I don’t think I have ever seen anything quite so delusional or infused witb hatred of the majority gentile nation(the US)(and anyone who isn’t a jew) without whose support the jews would still be a wandering tribe.
It’s apparent from this guy’s comment that there are some good reasons why the jews were disliked and expelled from country after country thruout history…they were too influenced by and identified with the jews like this nutcase.
I use to think that all people were bascially alike but over the past few years of observing the jewish community in the US and the Israeli actions in the ME I am gaining a new appreciation for my own gentile heritage. We appear to be the only race that has ever suceeded in building democratic societies or countries or enterprises and actually kept them going. And actually included others in ouropportunities, minorities like the jews, and in our success.
Something the Jews have never and apparently never will be able to acheive…due to their own delusions about themselves…which like Martini H. Leaf’s rant, as any psycharist will tell you, is a protective defense that actually comes from a deep sense of inferiority..not from actually believing they are superior. It’s like a kid whistling thru the grave yard…and of course his second best protective delusion is that everyone is an anti semite.
Now they are ruining the jews again, here in the US. Where will they go next? Will anyone except Israel take them in? I feel sorry for normal jews who are tarred by jew like this and assumed to be as sick and racist as this guy.
Re ‘not a Jew by choice’
It’s a long story, but Brad really isn’t Jewish. As such, I have found that he really is continuously surprised at the extent and depth of antisemitism; “No one knows what it’s like ... To be hated ... Behind brown eyes”. Yes, it is irrational to have large groups and masses of people devote time and money to destroying, killing, one, it is easier and even makes more sense to assume that Jews are just paranoid.
re Madoff - Madoff is an amoral psychopath, and the only Jewish connection here is that because of his origins he found it easiest to scam Jews. What he did was not a Jewish act, he did not do it because of his Jewish origins, and it does not characterize any other Jews.
Re: ‘soft antisemitism’. It just turned into ‘hard antisemitism’ with the mild re-entry of professional antisemite Michael Santomauro under a slightly modified and non-banned ID. If you recall from the last interminable thread about David Irving, he is about to start pasting pseudo-essays and pseudo-research from pseudo-academics explaining “The Riddle of the Jews’ Success” and why this hatred is just and understandable.
Yes, the Jews are a puzzle. But maybe things are simpler than they seem. It’s not the hooked noses, it’s not the swarthiness, it’s not those ear to ear wide mouths. It’s not about race at all. There are other nations, even uglier than Jews.
It’s all about behaviour. So many Jews have under such long times behaved so badly towards the others that the others had seen it fit to either contain them in ghettos, to expel them from their countries or to simply exterminate them.
Guys, the naked truth is that there’s something wrong with you. You are extrmely evil and hateful and should have no right calling anyone “antisemite”. And so what if someone hates you? It’s like hating cholera or aids. You guys are the disease. Everything you touch turns into shit.
And finally, why aren’t you all in Israel? Now that you have “somewhere to go”.
Go.
And never return.
Marcellus, are you quite done? Then wipe yourself.
Don’t worry. Republican or democrat, fear of the Jews ensures all Jewish money will be bailed out from the American taxpayer.
Bernie should be frog marched around the Gaza Strip to check for landmines.
Rachel stop being so jealous, and no, a Jewish guy will not marry you. Not one Jew hater has addressed the below FACTS
Jewish superior IQ and morals
Jews are superior intellectually and here is the scientific proof
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/jewish-genius-10855?page=all
Jews are superior morally and here is the statistical proof
Total Jewish population - 2.2%
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/usjewpop.html
Jewish prison population 1.77%
http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm
That means Jews are under represented by 20%. Muslims over represented by 400%, Catholics over represented by 200% etc…
Jews win almost one third of all Nobel prizes even though we are less than 1% of the world population, so that means we use our smarts for the good of mankind, including the cures and treatments for most major diseases.
I’d like to throw out a suggestion to any fellow members of the tribe who may be reading this (and who also aren’t anti-semites themselves, that cuts down on the percentages quite a bit):
How about we do it?
How about we actually start to act like the “tribal” people that our enemies so assume that we are? How about we actually convene a host of “elders” (so to speak) - the titans of hollywood, finance, government, literature and science - and ACTUALLY CONSPIRE TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD?? My own personal preference would be to take over the world so as to be better manage it for the increased health and happiness of all, but I’m open to considering some “enslave the goyim for our benefit” options, I’ll be open-minded here…
Seriously, we ARE the most talented people on the face of the Earth (if a bit outnumbered by the hordes) and I think we’d give those who hate us (and who will hate us no matter what) a run for their money.
We can’t bring them over to our side by trying to get rid of finance, which we excel at (I seem to recollect a lack of appreciation for some of our bretheren’s communist leanings) and we can’t win them over by producing Ayn Rand and all of the great Gods of the Libertarian movement who say “individual, succeed!”
No matter what, some large group of goyim will hate our guts, excuse history’s worst killers and twist their (often semi-intelligent) brains inside out to explain how we’re the most evil people on the face of the Earth.
So, again, my suggestion. Achdus. Unity. Get together as a group, work for each others’ benefit (as people amazingly assume we do ANYWAY) and become the dominant nation on the planet.
I say we’d be outnumbered but with a bit of that rumored Jewish genius for conspiratorial scheming I think we might have a shot.
Of course this CAN’T really happen because Jews are the LEAST monolithic of people and the very WORST at following orders from some sort of central command (which helps explain why there were so few revolts against the Nazis as they murdered our millions and why the rich, militarily powerful and super-intelligent Jewish State has about a 50% chance of making it through the next fifty years). If we’re monolithic at ANYTHING it’s at being contrarians, and surrounded by each other we’d just schism off into thousands of tiny groups.
But, should you choose to unafraidly open your eyes and notice how AMAZINGLY COMMON strong antisemitic feelings are IN THIS COUNTRY AND FROM ALL SORTS OF REGULAR PEOPLE you’ll see that considering an option of actual unity for the sake of thinking of ourselves as members of the Jewish nation and having the motto “Jew first” etched into our spirits - is a worthy thought for consideration, at least.
mnuez
P.S. None of which is to say that the “Holocaust!” criers and constant pointers of antisemitism and imposers of the conspiracy of silence regarding ACCURATE FACTS about Jewish demographics are not somewhat to blame for the roiling antisemitism that is coming to the fore among some of our countrymen. These self-proclaimed “spokesmen” for the Jewish people are a serious problem and they lead many a fine neighbor astray by ACTING SO SUSPICIOUSLY GUILTY all the time! But at the end of the day, masses of anti-semites have always been with us, regardless of our spokesmen and circumstances, so while Abraham Foxman might be guilty of creating an EXTRA fifty million antisemites or so, it’s safe to assume, in the absence of strong evidence to the contrary, that there would still be oodles of antisemites without him.
P.P.S. The above note was written to “Jews”. the antisemites have made it such that this peripheral aspect of some of our identity’s has been pushed, against our preference, to the fore - to the degree where I can write a note to “Jews” only. This later note is for those of you who are not Jewish. If you would like us Jews to cease feeling under siege and to not consider ourselves “Jews first” then you’ve got to do what we CAN’T do. Take on the antisemites, as non-Jews. Don’t denounce them like cringing Foxman-quoters. They’re right about a thousand subjects relevant to Jewish demographics. Denounce them and chase them from your lives for the twisted minds that they are for their having made the mental decision to interpret every Jewish peculiarity as evil, when most are neutral and more than a few are decidedly positive.
There’s so much more to say, but this is where I stop.
mnuez
Brilliant mnuez
Anyone who has read these posts can see some pretty hardcore Jew hating (please don’t use the term anti-semitism, its Jew hating).
The test of a real hardcore Jew hater, that is infected to that person’s very soul is this: If that Jew hater is willing to destroy themself in order to harm Jews, then that person is one of the many true to the soul, Jew haters (you can call them Amalekites).
It strikes me that Julie, Karin, EZRA, etc etc are good candidates for being Amalakites. Remember folks, Germany was willing to lose it all by diverting precious resources they needed to win the war, just to murder Jews.
Talk about hate! Anyone who dictates to you (or me) who you can be friends with are people who are hateful. I know people who voted for McCain and told me they lost friends over it. The mentality of other people should not influence your freedom to think for yourself.
It is so juvenile for people to disown a friendship for a different prospective on politics or history. I have nothing to be ashamed about! Nor should you! Instead society should strive for more dialogue and a better understanding of different views. Not to pathologize the other person’s likes or dislikes. But to work through them in a friendly manner, and not in a militant or belligerent way.
The two closest advisers in my life are my lawyer and my accountant. Both are Jewish. My accountant was born in Israel and my lawyer is a German-Jew who thinks more like a Nazi than most Germans of yesteryear. My lawyer and accountant love to debate me and we never agree on 95% on anything political or historical. But we love each other as friends for over 20 years going to each other’s family funerals or weddings.
Hate is toxic! I am not anti-Semitic or a racist, but the opposite. I am saying to the elite—-“Look in the mirror and then tell me who is the hateful one!”
People go to jail for the work that I do. THAT IS SICK!!! And there is nothing hateful or anti-Semitic in my books or writings. If you disagree with a claim that Jewish groups have a vested interest in—you get called an anti-Semite. If you or me disagree with the Catholic church does anyone make the ludicrous claim that you and I must be hateful of Catholics?
Constructive critique or criticism is what I strive for in my work. I am a one man shop with 19 books that I publish that specialize in the Holocaust. A subject that I have been fascinated with since childhood, because my father was in a Nazi concentration camp. My father told me things that was different from the non-revisionist history books I grew-up reading.
But I also realize it is an emotional subject for many people. Also, to my chagrin, a very boring subject for many people. The latter sentiment shocks me—-how can it be boring? But instead of disowning them as friends, I try to understand why they find it boring.
Yesterday I met ex-governor Elliot Spitzer in the post office. I went up to him and shook his hands telling him: “I think you are a great man”. And in return, he in a choked-up voice and teary eyed said back to me: “Thank you, you made my day.” If he knew I was a Holocaust Revisionist would he have shook my hand? I don’t know. All I know is I want to live my life with as much understanding as possible.
The Jewish-American professor Norman Finkelstein who wrote a book titled The Holocaust Industry cannot enter Israel since there is warrant for his arrest for his THOUGHT CRIMES for writing the book. Mind boggling! And both his parents are survivors of the concentration camps.
What sort of TRUTH is it, that crushes the freedom to seek the truth?
Don’t let people tell you who you can read or write to or be friends with. To do so is like ordering soup, and letting the waiter eat it and you pay for it.
{Satire}
Name that kike:
Here is the board of JP Morgan chase bank in 2004
Hans W. Becherer, Retired Chairman & Chief Executive Officer, Deere & Company *
John H. Biggs, Former Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, TIAA-CREF *
Lawrence A. Bossidy, Retired Chairman of the Board, Honeywell International, Inc. *
Stephen B. Burke, President, Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. **
James S. Crown, President, Henry Crown and Company **
James Dimon **
Ellen V. Futter, President and Trustee, American Museum of Natural History *
William H. Gray, III, Retired President and Chief Executive Officer, The College Fund/UNCF *
William B. Harrison, Jr. *
Laban P. Jackson, Jr., Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Clear Creek Properties, Inc. **
John W. Kessler, Owner of John W. Kessler Company **
Robert I. Lipp, Executive Chairman, St. Paul Travelers Companies, Inc. **
Richard A. Manoogian, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Masco Corporation **
David C. Novak, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Yum! Brands, Inc. **
Lee R. Raymond, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, Exxon Mobil Corporation *
John R. Stafford, Retired Chairman of the Board, Wyeth *
Name the kikes.
{/Satire}
‘Marcellus’ comes to a website with a Jewish orientation, calls Jews racially inferior and evil, defends Jew haters and murderers and stands around as an exhibit. Gee, what does a guy have to do to get banned around here, oppose Obama’s candidacy?
Meanwhile can some responsible party around here please peruse the David Irving thread to see what is about to happen to this thread when ‘Mchael Santomauro’ starts pasting in the entire contents of his holocaust revisionism website, page by page?
Note to all Jew haters: Most people in the world and throughout history have never met a Jew, and of the rest most know no Jews. It is not difficult and perfectly legal to arrange your life so as never to encounter a Jew, and certainly not to dwell upon them or consider them in your thoughts. Any motivation you have for being concerned with them derives from your own inner lacks, failings and guilt. If you enjoy considering us less than you in any way, or in fact if you enjoy insisting that the Earth is flat, feel free as long as you leave us alone. As for historic justice, most of us do not forgive you or trust you and when you get too crazy will go our own way, even if you attract a few screwballs like Norman Finkeltein or Noam Chomsky to join you.
Don’t worry about saying goodbye; we won’t miss you, and our lives are complete without you.
I am wondering if the Kike haters have a concensus on where all the Kikes should live. Kike hater Karin says New Jersey, Kike Hater Marcellus says Israel, Kike hater Lincoln says six feet under the gas chambers. I need to know where I should be looking to move.
Famous hopeless humanist leftist Amos Oz had about five minutes of moral clarity a few years ago (he has since relapsed), when he realized that in the run-up to the Holocaust all the world was shouting “Jews out to Palestine”, while all the Arabs shouted “Jews out of Palestine”. In that light, especially when the Arabs and Nazis (Mufti Husseini and Hitler) got together the Holocaust was inevitable. All legal and everything, for those in favor of the rule of law in evacuating Jewish ‘settlements’, etc,.
The Arabs and Nazis are still buddies (and considering who has the money we can figure out who’s on top), but at least we now know how seriously to take their garbage rhetoric.
At Syms, where Madoff is the chairman of the board, “Jewish tradition provides the framework for consideration of ethical issues, an integral part of the student’s education.” Does the “Jewish tradition” taught at Yeshiva U. support giant “Ponzi” schemes like the one run by their chairman? Is this the kind of business they teach the students at Syms? Cheat the “goyim,” , and steal their$
Consider the possibility that Bernie Madoff wasn’t just another Jewish crook from the get-go. He may well have started out as an honest guy, made lots of money honestly, and charitably given away quite a bit of it that was his to give. But the markets turned on him so viciously that he was driven by desperation to cover up his losses. Some men in his position might have killed themselves, but he simply took another way out, perhaps hopeful that his investments would recover before anyone found him out. This is not an innocent explanation of his crimes, for sure, but it nonetheless undercuts the argument that because he was smart and Jewish, he was destined to steal.
I’m sure glad Jews have not come into my part of the world! Please stay at where you are and continue cannabalising each other. The Far East does not welcome you lot.
The Madoff incident once again proves what every statistic and survey has shown: That Jews are the most charitable and least materialistic people on the planet per capita. After all, here is a question for the Jew Haters that they cannot answer: Why was madoff managing over 1.5 billion in charitable assets given by Jews for both Jewish and non Jewish causes?
Facts are stubborn little things. How does one explain the fact that jews score two standard deviations higher on IQ tests ? Jew haters, pull out every ounce of intelligence in answering these questions cause you are going to need it.
Y’know Leaf, I really know where you are coming from, and I have my moments myself in the right situation. But the ‘intelligence’ argument is a loser for many reasons. Not because it is wrong, but because it is backwards. Sure, the accumulated effect of dozens of centuries of divinely mandated sexual and social hygiene probably has some kind of beneficial effect, but that’s not really why Jews test out better. The reasons are the effects of cultural values on learning, of an intellectual meritocracy, of living by our wits, and all that is reason for more pride than just a genetic endowment as far as I am concerned. The Jewish value system places far more emphasis on what you do than what you are. If there are far more good-hearted ordinary guys than brilliant jerks it means the system is working.
P.S. Rick is right.
Wow if only I was a fly sittin on the step of the solomans temple I would have seen a couple folks complaining also. Now I’m not a jew by blood but know a lifetime about the “Graft” and belive it true. Most people need to understand that to play some will pay. Just like the days of old: todays fames, fourtunes and stars will also be memorys and the only lasting thing left is the word of truth
the humanist,liberals and feminist have won,you have state funded abortion,euthinsaia, dysfunctional families and community, bank bailouts ,global economic meltdown ,global warming, gay married women and men.the largest rate of incarceration per capita,three strikes and and your out. prayer out of schools ,guns in school
i can only hope that there is salvation .
Concerning the people who hate jews and have left hateful messages on this comment forum - I think its best for people not to answer them directly. In other words, please dont feed the trolls.
I have learnt that there will always be morons who have bigoted hearts. Such is the human condition that people have flaws (some more than others) and some are totally misguided and attempt to cause hurt to others who they shouldnt.
To blame jews as a group for the actions of one person is in my view simplistic and wrong.
I’m not sure if everyone realizes this but millions of Jews died during WWII. We should all have sympathy for them because of this. I went to the holocaust museum in Washington DC and saw all about this. And I must admit that DC is the perfect location for this museum! I mean, being the capitol of the USA it is the ideal place for a museum about the holocaust! Let’s all wait until Madoff goes to trial before we jump to any conclusions. He may be innocent. And he may have lost his parents in the holocaust!!
I don’t really see why people are making such a big issue of this Madoff scandal. Sure he’s Jewish, but most of the people he ripped off are Jewish as well, so the money stayed in the family.
I have mixed feelings on this. Impersonal name-calling, insults and sniping can be ignored, unless I’m in a bad mood. Ideological conflict and misinformation should be responded to. Jew hatred has mutated and metastasized into every area of life by now, including academic, political, media and internet.
We Jews have been marginalized for years. How do we, as Jews, get the goy to love us?
1. I think that if we quit ripping people off and practiced more honest business it would help.
2. Sure we stole Israel from the Palestinians, but I think we should help others realize that it was always our land to begin with. God gave it to us! Not them. We are the Chosen People and everyone else must realize this!
3. I think if we could everyone to see Schindler’s List they would realize what we’ve been thru as a people. Not you are I personally… but, you know, the other Jews, the ones we rely on to make people feel guilty and uncomfortable.
4. I think we should have more open forums, with no censorship. Like this one. Where no one is blocked.
You know the economy’s bad when Jews are ripping off other Jews.
Hi Moshe, or may I just call you ‘Dickhead’? You should not have a problem getting the goy to love you, as you are one. There is obviously no way to get people to love us, but we can gain respect and admiration by being true to ourselves and God, including having moral clarity on the false claim that there is such a thing as a Palestinian people with a claim on our land, and to show that we recognize a slithering creep like you when we see one.
Ben, I agree. Not everyone understands the Israeli land claim issue. They only know what they read in American newspapers, which are obviously biased. It is part of our job to spread truth to the American people. I also agree with you that Moshe is a slithering creep, just like Madoff.
I take exception to Moshe’s remark that we Jews would use the holocaust as a means to solicit sympathy, and to make others feel guilty. That is a despicable comment! Millions of people died!! DIED!! And don’t EVER forget it!!
Ben, I think we could get people to love us if we sent Madoff to prison. And I agree with you about moral clarity. Papers such as the New York Times continue to perpetuate the false notion that we Jews are stealing the Palestinian’s land. We must get the NYT to correct their view and tell people that the land was given to us by God.
One more thing I think is worth mentioning. It has been my experience that most people who are bigots, racists etc… are for the most part people with profound personal problems.
One of the reasons I advocate not rolling in the mud with such people is because if one realizes that one is dealing with someone who is not well adjusted or in the case of some of these conspiracy theorists - lacks sanity on some level; it is really beneath anyone who is relatively balanced to argue with such people.
In the same way - you would probably feel sorry for someone in a nut house - it is not worth ones time to argue or even to get upset with idiocy on the internet.
I do however advocate speaking ones mind on issues in general in order to discuss in a respectful manner the reality of an issue.
The main issue I brought up earlier (just to clarify) is that most people who label individuals within a group like this tend to do so out of fear and hatred rather than reason. In addition, many others who are influenced by such thinking sometimes lack the capacity to understand the complexity of the individual within a group and instead choose to make generalizations
jon
You are correct in principle but perhaps too personally perceptive to realize that many people take them at face value, and too personally nice to consider that these people are vandals not playing by your rules and can do real damage by a perceived success experience.
In the case of ‘Moshe’ and another guy another thread around here, they are pretending to be actual Jews putting up stupid and offensive ideas that at least some people will take at face value.
‘Moshe’
Let’s repeat - it is not a productive Jewish goal to be loved except as a byproduct of respect and admiration.
And although the God thing is beyond obvious to a true and honest believer in God, it is a mistake to use it to argue with secular institutions such as the New York Times. That is why your post is stupid and offensive by design.
All we need is to point out the facts of true history, law and justice to make our point. Come back after studying the contents of http://www.eretzyisroel.org
You don’t have to come back.
england the great colonizer reduced to an island of depressing weather,expensive s—- food and falling housing market .hood winked the first nations in virginia for their land.you think natives think cowboy and indian movies are a bad idea you should ask the rest of the world.americans in iraq ,weapons of mass distruction what about the 1.2 trillion dollar fraud war effort. bernie is a 70 year russian jew who just happen to forget about God’slove so let him have his justice while russians deploy missles to iran.
in conclusion to all the rascist bigots just remember, my Lord, Yeshua said slavation comes from the jews
Ben, I looked over eretzyisroel. It is verrrry good. Rabbi Katz produces some very convincing proof that we Jews did not steal the land from the Palestinians. Palestinians were in fact “sea faring” people. Perhaps Greeks. They were not land dwelling Arabs. That land is clearly ours! Given to us by God! Sure we lost it for a few thousand years, but that does not mean we are not the owners! And personally I have no problem taking USDs to protect it. I just hope Ben Bernanke (who is fortunately “on our side”... know what I mean ;^) keeps printing them for us! Shalom!
Carlos, I agree with you on all counts!
“in conclusion to all the rascist bigots just remember, my Lord, Yeshua said slavation comes from the jews”
Truer words were never spoken, carlos! Salvation will come from the Jews. For we are the chosen people.
And you are absolutely correct about the English. People accuse us of taking land from the Palestinians. The English took land from the Indians. And English food does suck!
I had not realized that Bernie forgot about God’s love. I thought he was a good Jew. Oh well…
I don’t know if Iran even needs Russian missiles. They are developing their own. Fortunately they do not have nukes (yet). My concern is that Pakistan will be “their supplier”.
And I agree, there are racist bigots everywhere. They make me sick! Fortunately we Jews aren’t. Shalom!
And carlos, you are a much more reasonable person than Ben. He is not a very nice person, e.g. “You don’t have to come back.” I think it is Jews like him that give all of us a bad name.
Moshe is a Jewish name but the ‘Moshe’ on this blog is not a Jew and his name is not really Moshe. I will continue to repeat this.
There is a certain interaction going on here that I want to highlight and make obvious. Moshe continues to bring up that God of Israel gave the land of Israel to the nation of Israel and that is true. But the purpose of the statement is designed to dismiss the idea by narrowing the claim to a religious one, which in today’s terms is subjective and arguable.
There are in fact many bases for the claim, each independently sufficient. The website http://www.eretzyisroel.org in fact proves the opposite of what Moshe claims to have found, and I encourage anyone with an interest in the topic to peruse it to great benefit and enjoyment.
In particular;
As http://www.eretzyisroel.org documents, the people today called Palestinians since about 1969 with very few exceptions were foreign migrant workers from Egypt, Syria, Iraq, North Africa etc. who came to benefit from the Jewish Zionist investment in Palestine.
They have nothing to do with the ancient sea-faring Greek-type Philistines. In fact that was never considered before about 1990 in an attempt to pre-empt the claim of the Jews by historic precedence, and it would not work anyway since the Philistines were white European colonialist invaders confined to the area of Gaza, and were destroyed by the Babylonians like everyone else except for the Jews. They had been gone for a thousand years when the Romans named Judea after the name of Israel’s ancient enemies in an effort to erase the identity of Israel with the Jews. This was centuries before the Arab invasion of Jewish ‘Palestine’.
http://www.eretzyisroel.org further documents that the land of Israel/Palestine contained a continuous Jewish presence throughout its history, which was the one constant in a long history of foreign invasions and occupations.
But you get the pattern. ‘Moshe’ will say the exact opposite of the truth, including truth documented from original sources.
Here’s one truth: Jews are not monothic. Some Jews are all about money. Many Jews are all about tikkun olam, meaning caring for the Other. Many Jews are kind and practise lovingkindness. Many of us care about the Other, Many Jews go out of their way to help non-jews like those in Darfur; Many of us Jews care about non jews. We oftem give to the the less fortunate and give to non Jewish brethen We are a mixed bag not about moe but about caring for the less fortunate of all ethnic groups. We have a talent for humor. We care deeply that the world can be a beter place. We don’t amass money and many of us are poor by choice. To be Jewish is often not to care about money but about social justice for everyone. We on the left believe that we are on this earth to help the Stranger among us. We are, many of us, obsessed with social justice.
Madoff is an anomoly. We are the ones who care about helping anyone, Jew or not. To use Madoff as the typical Jew is totally off. don’t use his awful deeds to brush us as money hungry maniacs. On the left we don’t want more money but to help others. Madoff is an anomaly, who fits the anti semetic archetype. We are lucky in our caring for most other groups, and personlly I care about the less fortunate among us, whatever their ethnicity. Many Jews are like me. Millions. So this Madoff nightmare hurts our image, which is nothing like bernie. We are on the frofront of social justice work. DO NOT TAR US WITH THE SAME BRUSH because we are as varied as any other religion. I weep for those who oare using Bernie Madoff as some typical Jew. He is not. The vast majority in USA are truly caring about others’ pain, Jewish or no. Most of us have NOTHING in common with Madoff, au contraire; peope here get a grip. The vast majority of USA Jews have good hearts. Get that?
I encourage people who read some of these posts to understand as I mentioned earlier that the majority of people who blame that groups peoples and individuals within these are usually very angry and confused themselves - and get relief out of blaming those in many instances they do not understand.
Wendy,
You do not need to state the obvious. Noone in their right mind would compare all people or even the vast majority of people to one person in a religious or ethnic group who has done bad things. Those who
choose to paint or tar “with the same brush” not only miss out on the diversity of human beings but also the potential of understanding the beauty and complexity of what people are.
Hatred often comes out of fear I find and fear often out of confusion and panic. I would not be at all surprised if many of the bigots, racists, nativists posting have personal issues that translate into such hatred unfortunately for everyone else on earth.
In other words Wendy; it is their problem in this case. Do not feel you have to defend yourself simply because you happen to be of an ethnic group. The haters posting on here are angry and are looking for people to bother. They feed themselves on other peoples insecurity to make themselves feel better about their own fears. My advice as everyone knows is simply to speak your truth quietly and reasonably and not to feed the trolls….
Not all jews are Bernie Madoff’s. Steven Spielberg has made some great movies. Check out Schindler’s List! And contrary to what the some would have you believe, the media is NOT controlled by the Jews. Jews are very open and honest people. They always tell the truth. They would never deal in propaganda, or try to hide the truth. I’m sure everyone believes this already though.
Thanks
MosheArnold.P.S. I never miss.
The way you feel right now, after what Madoff did to you, losing an actual $50-100 billion in real assets is what blacks feel all the time in America.
Sucks, doesn’t it.
Good, stop colluding with evil.
First of all, as terrible as this is it’s nothing to what the Jews have been through.
Second of all, the Jews have been through worse than all the black people who have ever lived, and we only started in 1315 BC. Nobody has anything to teach the Jews about loss. And we are still getting stiffed in America, and black people have been proven to be more antisemitic than white people.
Third of all, the Bible says that Nimrod who tried to kill Abraham was a Hamite. Some say that the Egyptians who enslaved us wee Hamites. The Canaanites were Hamites. Not saying you had it coming or anything.
Have a nice day, but not at our expense.
Ben-
Five million people have been murdered in the Democratic Republic of Congo in the last decade. Unlike the Jews, they didn’t get a D-Day.
In America, various studies show whites who identified as felons had the same job callback numbers as blacks with no criminal record.
http://www.ny1.com/Default.aspx?SecID=1000&ArID=51561
http://www.princeton.edu/~pager/race_at_work.pdf
If your first response is to try and justify this suffering by the state of African govt, US prison stats, etc., go to the nearest restroom and take a good hard look in the mirror so you’ll know what a real racist looks like. There’s NO VALID EXCUSE for discrimination against law-abiding blacks in favor of white felons. There’s NO moral basis to argue that the US should have rescued Jews from Hitler but not the Congolese from militants.
The modern racist threat is not from Nazis or Pharaoh. It’s from employers and investors (also educators and police) who regularly use race as a proxy for merit in deciding who to deal with and who to trust. Ironically, this deplorable and lazy method of vetting is to their own detriment because it blinds them to the truth and keeps out the best talent. Madoff’s investors trusted him *in part* because he ran in their Jewish country club circles. If a black, impecabbly resumed fund manager came to the country club promising 10% returns, do you think they would have handed over their entire portfolios or billions of dollars no questions asked like they did for Madoff? Not a chance, not to the tune of $50BN.
An earlier post stated that Madoff may have only started his scheme to cover up earlier losses (no evidence of this, by the way), as if that is at all relevant. He wouldn’t have been the first to lose money in the markets. He could have found a different line of work. The arrogance to think that saving face is a valid defense for massive fraud is mind-boggling. You’re probably the same morally bankrupt kind of person who would tell your child to cheat on a test becase he flunked the last test. A good, moral person would tell their child to study harder or switch majors to something he’s good at.
By the way, if you want to diminish anti-Semitism, stop referring to yourself as the “chosen people.” Give to more high-profile causes in Africa and poor minority neighborhoods, like WASPs do (Gates, Buffett, Bono, Jolie, etc.) Denounce the opening of Jewish-owned pawn shops, liquor stores and gun stores in minority neighborhoods if you would not allow them in your own neighborhoods. If you hear a friend or relative saying racist things, tell them to stop.
To Martini H. Leaf
I dont know what religion has to do with the Madoff story but if your were that smart and superior as you say you would not have lost billions to Madoff…HAHAHA
All I can say is that you are pathologically self conscious, something I have observed in the black community (an oxymoron if there ever was one). I do not justify racism and I am the least racist person you will ever have contact with.
Get it straight - the US did not rescue the Jews from Hitler and nobody rescued the Jews from Hitler. Nobody. The US did not enter the war until Pearl Harbor. Learn some history. On the other hand, maybe you are not old enough to remember why the US entered Somalia. The reason is that the US entered Bosnia, and all the black people started complaining that the US entered Bosnia because the Bosnians are white, but they don’t care about Somalia because the Somalians are black. ‘Blackhawk Down’, anyone?
Nobody is defending Madoff either, stupid, only explaining what is going on since you obviously can’t figure it out.
Finally, we can refer to ourselves as whatever we want and believe is true. We have no choice about referring to ourselves as the chosen people since the Bible says so. If you don’t believe the Bible is God’s word, then you should have no problem. If you do believe that the Bible is God’s word, then you should have no problem either. If you had any self-esteem, you wouldn’t care that we refer to ourselves as the chosen people. You could refer to yourself as the chosen people (some black supremacists do that).
As the chosen people of God, the Creator of the Universe and all life including you and Jeremiah Wright, we Jews have done more for Africa and poor minority neighborhoods in one year than the other 99.8 percent of humanity including all the WASPS and black people who ever lived put together. We Jews are also the least racist of all people, and if you black people are not the most racist you are in the top two. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Martini H. Leaf, you cited some statistics supposedly proving the superiority of Jews. In some respects this may reflect the excellent condition of Jews with respect to education, achievement, acquisition, and so on. However what you are missing is that it reflects poorly on the ability of Jews to reconcile the condition of non-Jews in the world. If you believe that G-d’s purpose to be merely a competition of His people to gain superiority and power over others, then perhaps you should look first at the condition of your heart and not the wealth of your people.
What you should ask yourself in terms of who is in prison is whether they arrived there following the dictates of Christ or of Mohammed or whether in fact they have fallen away from them. Many claim the name of Christ or Islam or Moses but do not live accordingly.
The real question is not whether statistically one group attains superiority over another.
Perhaps you will ask yourself if you have a heart of condemnation or of grace. Do you accept G-d’s judgment on you according to your deeds, by the same measure that you condemn others? Or is yours a heart of mercy?
I have nothing against anyone and not against you personally either, I am just offering this as something to think about.
American Goy
There Not to repeat myself in full, but the so-called superiority of Jews is in direct proportion to their proximity to living in accordance with God’s will as expressed in the Biblical revelation at Mount Sinai. It is not the mission of Jews ‘to gain superiority and power over others’, because those things are merely by-products of conformance to service of God. The history of the world in a nutshell is humanity screwing up and God saying to them “If you people can’t get it together and fulfill the covenants of Adam/Noah, then I will create my own brand new nation from my faithful servants Abraham/Isaac/Jacob (Israel) under my own law and its mission is to be a kingdom of priests and a holy nation; a prototypical nation in a prototypical land under prototypical law.
All this cultural jazz is just that; people like Bernie Madoff act as humans in general and not Jews in particular. The difference is that if Madoff’s name was Madici or Madewell or Madougal he would just be a jerk. Because his name is Madoff all we hear is “You see! That’s why people hate the Jews!”
The average Jewish person is down to earth and decent, as with any organised religion it is the extremely brainwashed, bigoted sheep that is the issue. Nearly married a Jewish girl, as a gentile though could never convert. Regarding old Bernie, just another greedy human being showing human nature.
Regarding Speilberg, he makes some good movies, I just wonder why he and others have never made a movie on the 1948 genocide of The Palestinians to create Israel?
A Jewish friend told me many years ago “Money doesn’t care who owns it”. Figure the rest out for yourself.
Ha Ha I got all your half sheckles, and now the retired gentiles and non-semite european born rich jews are arguing amongst themselves and playing racist calling games. This little ponzi sting could not have gone any sweeter for me. I’m off to Israel if the heat gets too close for comfort. So long SUCKERS, and learn to mind your dollars next time and ignore the cents, ka-ching you shiksas!
Where to start, 1. America did save the Jews in WWII, you say they did not, then who did?
Supremacy, as I like to say, you are “legends in your own minds”
Social justice? I worked at World Savings, saved them at least a million a year. Never got a bonus or promotion.They claimed to want to fight for the little guy, while they were doing the same thing they complained about.
You say you are the least racist? Is that why you pratice nepotism just as much as the races you complain about?
Plenty of reverse racism on this site to show you are full of it!
Can you say Hypocrite?
Who did? Nobody did. The Jews were not saved. They were killed. The survival rate was statistically near zero. Why is this difficult for you?
The true insane jewish genius for getting into the wrong place at the wrong time.
The original Egypt was the land of the jews. The Pharhoh was a jew. they kicked the palestinians out!
The names were changed to protect the innocent,.
Jews were the original slave drivers.
you can work me to death, but revenge is mine states the lord
Jesus was a hazel eyed jew who went against the slave drivers.
HG Wells “the time machine” has the jews as the Morlocks.
THE SLAVE DRIVERS
GET IT NOW JEW?
Jews are a MORLOCK!!!!!
This is so interesting. What are your sources for this information? How come the stinking Egyptians won’t give us our land back?
Obviously, Madoff lost sight of the fact that there are some things worth more than money in this world — namely, your standing within the community. The Bible is right, “Today has enough trouble of it’s own.” Not having money is maybe less stressful than having it taken away. Some people obsess over hidden treasure. Dreams of finding some vast hidden treasure out on some Caribbean Island is usually a byproduct of watching too many pirate movies and not researching what actually went on with them. (Most pirate raids were for primarily two things, food and booze.) Anyway, a lot of people are looking for where Madoff stashed his loot, and they’d get some short term loans to try and find out just where it was he hid it. It is highly unlikely that he hid a treasure chest full of cash and bond coupons, so anyone looking to get out the metal detector will just have to get used to disappointment – as they won’t likely find any of his hidden treasure. http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/2009/03/18/buried-treasure-madoff-hide-billions/
Authorities have discovered that about the only money on the planet that Bernie Madoff wasn’t managing was the Madoff family fortune. That’s been found in Europe, where employees of Madoff Securities International dutifully managed it for them…may I correct..?
I love it. Even the spam posters are hanging on to Madoff to get attention.
Jews are parasites. Do your research, the jews are taught from the torah and talmud to abuse and fock over anyone who is not jewish. They even have a name for the non-jewish people (called goi or goyim). The jews tell goy jokes at parties about how they mistreat, abuse, steal from the stupid goy. If jews are exterminated, the planet would be able to evolve and we could some day have “civilized” people. Until the jew problem is removed, we are doomed.
Right. You are doomed.
The Madoff investors were greedy and had huge ego’s. They were also suckers. I laugh at the entire lot of them.
Thanks, I will have the fries with that.