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June 8, 2011 | 2:27 pm

Jews: Spitzer, Weiner, Strauss-Kahn vs. Gentiles: Schwarzenegger, Edwards, Sanford

Posted by Ilana Angel

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The last couple of years have seen a lot of news stories on politicians behaving badly with affairs and silly pictures over Twitter.  There are different levels of inappropriate behavior, and while we’ll never know why certain choices were made, it’s interesting to try to figure it out.  Perhaps the best place to begin is by separating the Jews from the Gentiles.

Let’s use these six men for our experiment:

Eliot Spitzer – Jewish
Anthony Weiner – Jewish
Dominique Strauss-Kahn – Jewish
John Edwards - Gentile
Mark Sanford – Gentile
Arnold Schwarzenegger – Gentile

The non-Jews in our experiment all had affairs.  They had relationships outside of their vows.  They were “classic” adulterers.  They cheated, but their relationships were not just about sex.  All three had ongoing relationships with the women they slept with, and continue to be connected to them after the scandals that took them down.

The Jews however, were caught in not so normal behavior, by using the Internet for pseudo-sexual encounters, paying for prostitutes, and allegedly attacking women for forced sex.  Are the Jews cowards, or geniuses?  By not engaging in a relationship, did the Jews think it was not cheating?  Could their approach be seen as more of a mistake in judgment rather than a sin?

If you pay someone, use your computer, or force them, does that make you a better husband that having an emotional connection and full blown relationship outside of your marriage?  The Gentiles who cheated all had their marriages end, and they all continue to have, or actually be in, relationships with the women they cheated with.

They are humiliated, and have ruined their careers and reputations, but they are viewed as pigs and dogs, not deviants or violent predators, as the Jews are.  John Edwards cheated on his dying wife, had a baby, and is now being indicted for using campaign money to cover up the affair.  He is a dog, a pig, a liar, and a moron.  He is not a deviant or violent.

Mark Sanford cheated on this wife, left her and their children for his “soul mate”, gave up his job, career, and seemingly good life, to be with the woman he cheated with.  Arnold Schwarzenegger slept with his housekeeper, had a baby with her, and continued to have her working in the home he shared with his wife and children for years without his family knowing.

Sanford and Schwarzenegger are dogs to be sure.  They violated marriages, devastated children, humiliated wives, and ruined their careers.  Their sexual encounters became something bigger than just a romp in the sack though.  They still have relationships with the women they were with, and the kids they had.  After the sin, did they do right thing?

The Jews on the other hand were not as committed with their sinning.  Eliot Spitzer slept with hookers using another name, Anthony Weiner sent pictures from his own account instead of having a fake Twitter for his indiscretions, and Dominique Strauss-Kahn was allegedly blatant in his desires for sex, with no attempt to change his name either.

Are the Jews just dumber?  Is the feeling that if you simply “play around” it’s not as offensive, or perhaps less of a sin, than having an actual affair that involves time and emotional investment?  If you cheat and tell your wife, will she forgive you more easily than if you don’t tell her and she finds out on her own?  Are there differently levels of sin?

Another option could be that Jewish men are oppressed sexually which makes them a little more deviant in their behavior.  Maybe they are kinkier and think they need something other than a regular old mistress to have their sexual fantasies met.  If you are paying a hooker then I imagine you get what you pay for, and therefore can pay for anything you want.

If you send your pictures over the Internet, there is a level of danger that could be a turn on.  Talking to someone and letting them know what you want them to do is less dirty than having them actually do it, and forcing someone to satisfy you sexually takes on a different set of sins.  Do DSK and Weiner have sexually submissive and boring wives, forcing them to go another way?

Do men throw away their careers for sex?  It’s not that simple in my opinion.  Arnold slept with his housekeeper, but took care of her and their son for years, so even though he is a douchebag, there is an underlying level of decency.  Sanford ruined his family, but found love in his soul mate whore and remained with her after he lost everything, so he was decent to her.

Edwards put a dark cloud over the final years of his wife’s life, but supports the daughter from his affair, and continues a relationship with her.  I imagine he regrets his choices with his recent indictment, but would it be a regret without the pending legal battle? The Gentiles are disgusting, cowardly men, but in the end followed their sins up with decency.

The Jews have an added layer of disgust and disappointment to their sinning, and to be honest, I’m not sure if perhaps I view it that way because I am a Jew myself.  Do I hold them up to a higher standard?  Are they presumed to be menschy?  Weiner has been married only a year.  What is going on with him that this risky and dangerous behavior is happening?

Spitzer worked to close prostitution rings, yet was caught with hookers.  DSK put himself in compromising situations with everything to lose.  Were the Jewish men trying to get caught to escape unhappy lives?  Does the mensch come into play by them ruining their lives, taking all the blame, and ugliness on themselves so they can get out, and their wives are the victims?

What does a wife do when faced with her husband’s deviant behavior?  It is being reported today that Weiner’s wife is pregnant with their first child.  What does she do now?  Maria Shriver has a 25 year history ending so how does she start over?  Does DSK’s wife just look away and continue to live her life of wealth and comfort?

Is it easier to forgive a naked picture over the Internet than a full blown affair?  Is the sin in the desire to do something bad, or is it only when a physical line is crossed?  Are Jewish men afraid of their wives?  The same wives that don’t stimulate them sexually? Or do they love them, and want to be caught so as not to hurt them?

I think it’s all fascinating and I wonder if any of these men, Jews or Gentiles, will ever have the balls to come clean and explain what happened that led them to their choices.  Can a man be so unhappy, or perhaps so deviant, that he throws away everything for nothing?  Jew or Gentile, dog or deviant, at the end of the day, these men need to try keeping the faith.

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I would like to remind you that so far DSK is presumed innocent , the way he has been treated is in no way comparable to OJ, KOBE MICHAEL JACKSON, for whom the presomption of innocence was claimed by the many who supported them , my best bet is that DSK is not “hot” not a pop star nor a ball player but the most brilliant economist of our time, that became( what a joke) a symbol of women oppression?!! Yes the absolute condition to fulfill the American dream is to remain sound asleep!

Cheers

Comment by Joelle on 6/08/11 at 4:02 pm

Joelle,  I personally don’t think DSK is guilty for everything he is accused of and it will come out in the wash.  I put that it was allegations, not a done deal.  It will be interesting to see how it plays out.  Thanks for writing.

Comment by Ilana Angel on 6/08/11 at 5:05 pm

I think these guys are more alike than not, no matter what they did with whom and how they did it… I think they ALL are lacking in some basic level of decency, becuase they are knowingly hurting the people who love them the most..these men all share similiar traits of immaturity, selfishness, narcisissim, and surprisingly probably a self esteem issue…i think the biggest sin is not necessarily what they did, but the lies and deceptions that help create this second, sordid life… really it makes me sad to see that these men, who had extradinary lives and opportunities, ultimately chose behavior that is esssentilly the same as bunch of 13 year old boys.

Comment by tracy on 6/08/11 at 5:12 pm

We never get to think some spooky evil being can take over our sensibilities, and we never get “forgiveness” because we say we feel bad.There’s a personal price to pay.Some call it atonement. It seems many tainted gentiles “find religion” and get out of jail free,so to speak. As nutso as these Jewish men behaved, the determined weirdness,shows delusional attempts at rationalization. Paying for sins “with decency” may work for gentiles, but it’s not Jewish. The Jewish men feigned moral relativity, while, it seems, trying to get caught, because some repressed part of each of them knows better.

Comment by Shani on 6/08/11 at 11:24 pm

In the particular case of Dominique Strauss Khan, you should acknowledge that many people believe in a conspiracy theory , and in my opinion,  rightfully so . He hasn’t been judged yet but thrown to jail on the allegations ALONE of A woman no one has seen yet, whose brother ended up to be a friend but no, a boyfriend.. Do you really believe such a man is capable of violence ?
Because I don’t , the same way I don’t believe Israel is an Apartheid country, you see I happen not to buy the media frenzy specifically when it is bashing and targeting Jews in that terrible manner. If the presumption of innocence prevails in America, it should prevail for EVERYONE.

Comment by Joelle on 6/09/11 at 12:00 am

I rather do an end run around all this idiocy. No one says to their children, “be like politicians!”. Only a moron for a parent would use a politician for a role model. They lie, cheat and take payoffs and that is when they aren’t showing off their circumcision scars, having affairs or screwing up the country.
They get elected by lying to the people by telling them what they want to hear.
You can’t character assassinate a politian, it is assumed they have no character. Even JFK screwed around and I liked him.
This country is in deep financial trouble and all the morons are identifying themselves by getting involved in scandals.

Comment by VINCERO on 6/09/11 at 10:40 pm

Only morons would have their children see politicians as role models. Politicians lie, cheat and don’t follow rules and that is just how they get get elected.
If the citizens of this country cared more about their performance in office and less about their private lives, we probably wouldn’t be in such an economic disaster.

Comment by VINCERO on 6/09/11 at 10:51 pm

who cares about what they do on their own time. as long as they do their job that we elected them for and that we pay them for.

Comment by nazihunter on 6/09/11 at 10:56 pm

I think you are all over thinking this ....remember the joke, “why does a dog lick his balls? Answer: Because he can.”

Should we men [and women] control these types of behavior /actions?  Well that is why its in the top 10 commandments…. as it makes for a more saner and well functioning society.
[btw I have worked for many years with teen moms so my views are colored by that experience. Ring it up for Tracy !]

Comment by brooklynboy on 6/12/11 at 9:50 pm

I agree Brooklyn. Besides, any form of sex over the internet is safe sex, no STDs and especially no pregnancies.
Most americans are sexually retarded or sexually immature. One of the greatest parts of sex is spontaniety and the excitement of not knowing what is to come and of course, passion and fun.
Married people are in a sexual prison, where their marriage partner is just the warden and they sure do hate when someone escapes and is free to do as they please

Comment by VINCERO on 6/12/11 at 10:41 pm

The three Gentiles had an element of love in their action (that’s the “decency” part). They loved their mistresses, and still love them. The three Jews only sought sexual gratification. Maybe those Jewish men’s relationship with their wives is weird, as if their wives were also their mothers, and nothing can replace their mother’s love.

Comment by farang on 6/16/11 at 6:23 am

Seems my posts are being moderated. I guess we have some jewish nazis in the Jewish Journal.

Is anyone else having their posts moderated?

Comment by nazihunter on 6/16/11 at 4:33 pm

Hunter: I post all the comments myself and since this blog was written over a week ago, the comments do not pop in in order of date and require me to look for them to post them.  I do not change comments, and post them all.  I will go back and look to see if I missed one from you, but it might take me a few minutes.  I can assure you that your comments are not being moderated.  I would like to also say that your comment is rude, offensive, and ridiculous.

Comment by Ilana Angel on 6/16/11 at 5:03 pm

Ilana
If you are close to the management, maybe you could recommend they change the character limitation from 700 characters to 900 characters. It like all prohibitions, is ineffective and forces people to do end runs around the limitation.

Comment by nazihunter on 6/16/11 at 5:23 pm

I have inquired about the 700 character limit and will let you know what I find out.  Thanks.

Comment by Ilana Angel on 6/16/11 at 5:31 pm

Passion is what drives us, inspires us, changes us. The gentiles at least went for something that changed them, love, whether is was for a soulmate, or a lover, or a child. This is the decency. The jews went for the cheap thrills. Being a gentile woman I know that had it been my husband, my passion would have had me put a pan to his head, his clothes on the street and his share in my bank account!

Comment by bluesky28 on 7/01/11 at 9:56 pm

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