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November 11, 2010 | 10:48 pm
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“And George Soros used to go around with this anti-Semite and deliver papers to the Jews and confiscate their property and then ship them off … Here’s a Jewish boy helping send the Jews to the death camps. And I am certainly not saying that George Soros enjoyed that, even had a choice. I mean, he’s 14 years old. He was surviving. So I’m not making a judgment. That’s between him and God. As a 14-year-old boy, I don’t know what you would do.”
George Soros is—many people would call him an anti-Semite. I will not. I don’t know enough about all of his positions on Jews… He’s also an atheist.”
– TV and radio host Glenn Beck
Glenn Beck’s description of George Soros’ actions during the Holocaust is completely inappropriate, offensive and over the top. For a political commentator or entertainer to have the audacity to say – inaccurately – that there’s a Jewish boy sending Jews to death camps, as part of a broader assault on Mr. Soros, that’s horrific. – ADL statement
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I don’t know how well Glenn Beck knows the organized Jewish community, but he definitely has a Jewish problem. This week he gratuitously slandered a prominent Jewish philanthropist in probably the worst way that you can slander a Holocaust survivor, and many Jewish leaders are justifiably outraged. The ADL and the American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors and their Descendants have denounced Beck’s comments, which are presented in a negative light in every Jewish news source that has run the story. As a Mormon who has worked for years to promote LDS-Jewish relations worldwide, I have a few words of advice for my coreligionist.
First of all, know your limits vis-à-vis Jews. It’s almost always a bad idea for a Gentile to call a Jew an anti-Semite. You can criticize Soros’s politics and organizations all you want, but lay off the references to his ethnicity. Believe me, every Jewish reader sees through your “they-say-he’s-an-anti-Semite-but-I’m-not-sure” nonsense. If I were to write something like “They say Glenn still drinks and does drugs and may even beat his wife, but I don’t know enough about his home life to judge,” I don’t think too many of your fans would give me a pass. By the way, many Jews are atheists, and their unbelief doesn’t affect their membership in the tribe.
It’s an even worse idea to invoke the Holocaust inappropriately, which you continue to do (and have apologized for doing in the past). Accusing a Jewish Holocaust survivor of having been a teenage Nazi is simply inexcusable. To make matters even worse, your facts are wrong in this case. According to Ron Kampeas of the JTA (who has slightly more credibility on Jewish reporting than you), a young Soros on one occasion accompanied his non-Jewish protector (a necessity in a country where 2/3 of Jews were killed) when the Nazis ordered the man to inventory the estate of a Hungarian Jew who had fled. On another occasion, the local Jewish council ordered Soros to deliver letters to local Jewish lawyers. Soros’ father immediately realized that the letters were meant to inform them of their deportation, and he told his son to warn the targets to flee. He also ended the boy’s work with the council. No reasonable person could possibly think that the young Soros’s actions rose to the level of “helping send the Jews to the death camps.” This outrageous accusation clearly violates LDS moral teaching, which prohibits lying and slandering others. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Finally, traveling to Israel and making occasional pro-Israel remarks, while welcome, won’t protect you from Jewish outrage when you cross red lines. You simply don’t have enough bona fides in the Jewish community to get away with Holocaust exploitation and ad hominem attacks on prominent Jews. Your remarks were universally condemned in the Jewish press, and there is every reason to expect that your future statements on Jewish issues will receive heightened scrutiny (as they should). Everyone in the Jewish community knows that Soros is a completely secular Jew who does not identify himself closely with Israel or with most Jewish causes. However, he is still a Jew and a Holocaust survivor, and deserves better than to be labeled a former Nazi by a non-Jewish pundit who has never lived abroad, has never lived in a country that has been invaded, has never been the target of a genocidal campaign, and has minimal contact with the organized Jewish community. You can make all of the pro-Israel statements you like, but Jews also pay attention to how you treat individual Jews.
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The Jewish leaders’ reactions say to me that they’re not convinced that Beck really loves Jews, which should be a cause of great concern to him if he cares at all how he is perceived by the Jewish community. I think Jews have reason to be skeptical of Beck, and I hope they keep his feet to the fire. In the spirit of Glenn, let’s just say that while some people might say he’s an anti-Semite, I’m not saying that. I’m just saying that sometimes he acts like one.
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I will be speaking to Mormons and Jews at the Jewish Community Center in Salt Lake City on January 12. I will also be making a joint presentation with Rabbi Alan Cohen in Kansas City on January 16.

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So Beck can’t talk about the Jewish community but YOU can. Funny. I went to Irsaeli web sites and 90% of the comments support Beck. The only Jewish leaders condeming Beck are LIBERAL. What a shock.
Mark I don’t think you get what Glenn Beck is really pointing out about Soros…watch the previous episodes on “The Puppetmaster.” New World Order, Globalization, progressive moves that are a threat to the Constitution of the United States. Beck is a Constitutional conservative so of course he’s going to place Soros in his sights.
George Soros in an ATHEIST, and left the Jewish religion behind decades ago. To now claim that Soros is Jewish is like saying that Bill Maher is Jewish and Catholic.
George Soros is, in my opinion, one of the most demented men I have ever had the fortune of not meeting. Born a Jew during the Nazi regime, his mother hated Jews and Soros speaks in his own words of his mother’s hatred toward Jews. So what job does she procure for her son…? She lies about his jewish heritage and it his 14 yr. old Georges job to evict the Jews and confiscate their property (his OWN people) and assist in their being sent off to concentration camps. In a interview conducted later in life, he reflects back on this period as the “happiest years of my life.” WOW!!! Can you IMAGINE?????
beck has done his homework. he has just as much of a right to talk about jews as the person who wrote this article.
agreed. this article was freaking ridiculous!
“This week he gratuitously slandered a prominent Jewish philanthropist in probably the worst way that you can slander a Holocaust survivor, and many Jewish leaders are justifiably outraged.”
Right after I read that I knew this would be a funny article. It lived up to my expectation. Ha Ha hA!
this is on the top of the web search for George Soros… bottom line, unless all those videos and written articles and quotes are wrong, George Soros used to be Jewish (now atheist), does not like Israel and donates to funds that are against Israel existence, and believes strongly in world government and that the USA is the biggest thing in the way of it.
Literally, his own words.
Soros is a dangerous man. Period. The sooner people of all ethnicities and political leanings realize this, the sooner his financial and political influence will dwindle, god willing, to zero.
I agree with Glenn Beck, this guy George Soros wants to see the United States tank. George Soros is bad news to the U.S. as well as the world economy, he is working with the government with the hopes that we have a economic collapse. Glenn Beck is speaking the truth and I support his view. George Soros is NOT a person to support.
This article is written by someone paid by Soros. That is how his game works.
Mr Soros does not represent the jewish people.
He is an atheist, an antisemitic and does not support Israel.
The Torah requests that we, jews enlighten the world, not undermine it.
The jewish people must reject him.
What part of “These are not my words but George Soros’s words” did you not get? Did you miss each and every clip starring George Soros? The words espouses came from George Soros’s mouth, interviews and writings. Glenn has used Soros’s own words, not his. If you take offense to these words, know that you are in good company. Glenn has implored each and every one of us, to seek our own facts and to find truth. I would urge you to do just that.
Im so sick and freakn tired of these Soros lackys spreading their poison filth all over the net…I personally think Soros should be put on trial in one of the countries whos economy he tanked. WE THE PEOPLE will fight with EVERY last breath against these socialist pigs! This has absolutely NOTHING to do with Glenn Beck, it has to do with being a FREE nation. Must we have our freedom stripped away before we realize how precious it is? I say down with that criminal George Soros!
Defining Jewishness as an ethnicity is a simple falicy. Consider that Jewish Scarlett Johansson is of an altogether different ethnicity than is, say, Jewish Paula Abdul. To identify George Soros as a Jew is to see a racial component in Jewishness; and to see a racial component in Jewishness is to accept Hitler’s re-rendering of Jewishness as such, overriding fundamental laws of Judaism and thousands of years of theoretical and applied Jewish tradition. It is twisted to suggest that Glenn Beck’s expose on Soros is somehow an affront to Jews. And do you not see the irony in proposing to speak on behalf of every Jew in condemning Beck for addressing, in passing, what is a matter of tangential “Jewish” interest? As a Jew, I am offended by your officious ignorance; and not the least bit offended by Beck.
Sorry mate , you must have watched a different show to me. Beck may have been overly passionate about Soros’s motives but for you to imply that just because someone survived the horrors of the holocaust makes them immune to criticism is ridiculous. Because you take that stand alone will give pause to many that Beck may have credibility. Stop insulting our intelligence.
Why don’t all of you Glenn Beck groupies go back to your hate TV. Thier is only one reason you defend the man and claim you don’t care for Soros. You’re mind has been filled with lies and hate from YOUR puppet master, Glenn Beck. Let’s just see how many from the Jewish community won’t be offended, as you claim they are not. I’m offended by Glenn’s garbage and I’m not even Jewish
He Gets it guys, he knows what hes writing, He’s just on Soros Pay roll, this is why he is saying what he is saying.
Yes he can talk about the Jews, but Beck Can’t!
Typical, thats ok, peoples eyes are staring to open.
DAMO, At least we wontbe in the dark any more, We now know who our Enemy is, And now we as a nation have a FOCUS point, And its not to have our Goverement “SAVE US” Like your buddy Soros Wants, Nope Because of Glen (like it or not) The truth has been shown!
By the way your on Soros pay roll also are you not?
Which means everything you type, was bought and paid for by your buddy, the nice thing is, we can and will reconize his people by there “defending him” kepp talking all you want, but the people’s eyes have been opened and and now aware, ALL THANKS TO GLEN!
Thanks Damo, your just proving him right.
Am watching Glenn Beck from Australia every day. This whole article is about Soros’ actions 65 years ago.
Right or wrong, they are not the main point of the show. Soros has done some nasty things, abusing human nature at the worst possible way - he needs to be exposed.
I think Beck is right on. Soros is a nasty guy and playing with peoples lives all over the world. Beck is just enlightened the world of soros’s motives, plans, and actions. Beck is simply giving us the warning signs and exposing Soros for what he really is.
Mark Paredes, your criticism of Glenn Beck’s comments is cogent and compelling. I agree with all the points you made. It’s also true that “many Jews are atheists, and their unbelief doesn’t affect their membership in the tribe.” Thank you for your insightful contribution on the matter.
To all those commenting in favor of Beck:
You are all simple. This is not a complement.
@ Avi
Thank you for being the first competent commenter.
(I wish I had your strength to be so civil)
This whole piece seems to be motivated by the desire to defend Soros. Soros’ philanthropy is commendable. His messianic intentions and the way he has made his fortune is not. There is a quietly predatory quality to Soros and his activities that Beck is exposing to the light. Beck is close friend with Rabbi Lapin. I don’t know how Lapin is seen in the Jewish community, but I have never seen any evidence that Beck has anything but love and respect for the Jewish people and faith.
The arguments in this article are highly non-sequitur. Beck only reiterates what Soros has himself stated on numerous occasions, which is something the author can’t fathom or chooses to ignore altogether. That Soros turned his back on his Jewish brethren in Nazi-occupied Hungary has been a well-known fact long before Beck did this expose, and Soros himself has never denied it. The author needs to take the chip off his shoulder and come to terms with the reality of who this “philanthropist” really is - provided, of course, that he isn’t on the payroll of MoveOn or some other Soros-manipulated organization.
THIS ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN BY SOMEONE PAID BY GEORGE SOROS.
Born a Jew. That’s Soros’s only tie to Jews. Everything he has done is for himself. The man is a Zombie. He feeds not on the flesh but the souls and fortunes of all he encounters. Any Jew that would have him in the “tribe” deserves their fate. He is still the person he was when he conspired with the Nazis in the betrayal of his neighbors. The only difference now is he has learned to profit from this betrayal. He is a Godless, soulless, evil being. I will celebrate his death. To assail Mr. Beck is ludicrous. It’s like blaming a butterfly for a hurricane.
I am afraid that you can fool most of the people most of the time by looking at these ignorant Glen beck supporters who cannot understand that you did not say Glen cant criticize Soros, but it was dragging a supposed Nazi past that was inaccurate and irrelevant since Beck does’nt know or have the facts. So let me add an ad hominem attack. I am afraid these are the kind of mindless sheeple that someone like Hitler(becK) could easily manipulate
Mike—Character is everything. There are those in Hungary who protected the Jews at risk to their own lives. This is the highest expression of character—to endanger or give your life for another. These are the people who create the standard by which we need to compare Soros. He is a philanthropist—but the glee that he takes in toppling currencies and governments—and the fact that he does not own the failure of character that he showed when he was helping the Nazis-is just further evidence of the fact that he is a giver on the outside—and predatory on the inside.
I think Mr. Foxman ought to make up his mind
Here is quote from a few Yrs ago by Abe Foxman about Soros
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‘Abraham Foxman, National Director of the Anti-Defamation League, called it “absolutely obscene” that Soros blames Israel and Jews for anti-Semitism and used the rhetoric of anti-Semites in doing so.
Said Foxman: “He buys into the stereotype…It’s blaming the victim for all of Israel’s and the Jewish people’s ills.”
Perhaps Mr.Paredes needs to search a bit more to learn more about the truth. For a start try one of David Horowitz’s books. He has first hand knowledge about the minds of radicals, their goals and is Jewish also. It would be refreshing to hear a fair and balanced commentary from Mr. Paredes, especially since he claims to be part of the LDS Church. One might question Mr. Paredes’motive.
Are you seriously that libtarded? People like you make it embarrassing for me to call myself a Jew. The real American boogeyman of Israel is Obama.
You are disgusting, and Glenn Beck is a pure, decent and honorable man. The poster ME is correct: You make it a disgrace to call myself Jewish, you stupid liberals. You bring dishonor on all Jews and the betrayers in the concentration camps were much better than you are. I would like to you behind the shule someplace, knock your yarmulke off and beat the crap out of you.
Glenn’s Faithful have started their attack on this piece. Odd that so many read the Jewish Journal. Of course they don’t, if it doesn’t come from the mouth of the consecrated Beck, it is of no interest to them. Beck will correctly interpret both religion and politics, and tell them what to think, and inflame violent passions (read the comments under any article at Fox- hate and calls to violence abound). The American Taliban will not stand for anyone opposing their views.
Fascism is indeed near the doorstep, wrapped in the flag, carrying the cross. The first boot has already come down, on a WOMANS neck, by a man wearing a shirt that said “Don’t Tread on Me”.
We live in dangerous times, learning nothing from the past. Hypocrites scream for less gov’t- unless of course the gov’t is imposing their will on people, then it’s okay. Words from the “Founding Fathers” are taken out of context, twisted to inflame the masses. The mobs are sharpening their pitchforks & wrapping their torches. The accelerants are being poured. Gasoline out of the mouths of pundits. When will the spark come that starts people hurting their (literal) neighbors? Make sure you have the correct bumperstickers, the correct yard signs.
As I see oft in the comments section at Fox “fire purifies..”
See if this quote rings familiar with whats going on today:
“Naturally the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
~ Hermann Goering
“Information regarding Mr. Soros’ experiences growing up were taken directly from his writings and from interviews given by him to the media, and no negative opinion was offered as to his actions as a child”...
I’VE NEVER BEEN ONE TO LISTEN TO POLITICAL ORIENTED SHOWS 24 HR NEWS STATIONS ETC.
HOWEVER I CAME ACCROSS GLENN BECK WHILE CHANNEL CRUISING SOME 1-1/2 YEARS AGO. I WOULD LISTEN TO THE MAN ...PERHAPS ON ONE SUBJECT AND FLY OFF SOMEWHERE.
FROM TIME TO TIME MY EARS WOULD PERK UP WHEN I WOULD HEAR ON ANOTHER NON-FOX STATION STATEMENTS OF GLENN BECK BE ANNOUNCED WEEKS LATER IN AGREEMENT TO HIS STATEMENTS.
RELUCTANTLY HOVEVER WITH MORE HEIGHTENED INTEREST I WATCHED HIS SHOW AGAIN.
I AM NOW AN AVID FOLLOWER AND YES AS GLEN BECK ALWAYS TELLS HIS LISTENERS DON’T JUST BELIEVE ME ...PLEASE LOOK IT UP FOR YOUR SELF.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU DID LOOK THAT INFORMATION UP FOR YOUR YOUR SELF? DID YOU EVEN WATCH THAT 3 NIGHT PRODUCTION FROM BECK….IT SEEMS TO ME FROM THE WORDS YOU JUST PUT INTO BECKS MOUTH YOU DIDN’T OR YOUR INNER EAR THAT’S JUST ATTUNED TO ANY ITEM CONTRARY TO THE JEWS DISTORTED IT A BIT. EVERY HOLACAST SURVIVOR IS NOT A SAINT(THE SAME WITH ALL HUMAN BEINGS)
ONE OF THE WORST DEALINGS I HAD IN MY LIFE IN BUSINESS INVOLVING NON-PAYMENT OF A LARGE AMOUNT OF SERVICES TO MY UTTER SUPRISE WAS A HOLOCAST VICTIM WHO I ADMIRED. A MAN THAT SINCERELY ACTED AS A FRIEND. sOROS IN HIS OWN CLEARLY STATED WORDS ON A TELEVISED CLIP BECK AIRED CLEARLY SAID HE WAS AGAINST ALL JEWS. THERE WERE THE REAL BRAVE AND DEDICATED FOR THE MOST PART THAT WOULDN’T THINK ABOUT BEING SHIELDED IN ANY WAY IF THEY KNEW IT WOULD AFFECT ANOTHERS FREEDOM OR WORSE THEIR LIFE.SOROS AT ANY DAMNED AGE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAUGHT BETTER SRIRITUALLY NOT HIDDEN UNDER A CLOAK TO SAVE HIS OWN SKIN AT THE EXPENSE IF EVEN SLIGHT AGAINST ANOTHER HUMAN BEING.SO YOUR CHATIZING OF BECK WHO COULD PROBABLY BACK UP HIS ACCUCATION AND I THOUGHT I HEARD OUT OF THE MOUTH OF SOROS ON THAT SHOW IS WAY DISPROPORTIONATE FOR ALL BECK THROUGH HIS SHOW HAS ACCOMPLISHED SUCH AS WAKING UP PEOPLE AROUND THIS COUNTRY TO PROVEN REALITIES. MANY IF NOT ALL WHO STARTED WATCHING BECK CHANGED THE LANDSCAPE ON CAPITOL HILL FROM CONTINUING DOWNHILL LIKE A RUNAWAY TRUCK.
cONCERNING MORE POSSIBLE DISTRESS TO ISREAL KEEP AN EAR OPENED TO WHAT THE PRESIDENT DOES AND DOES NOT STATE. yOUR MAKING A BIG DEAL IF IT IS TRUE WHAT BECK SAID LIKE ARGUING OVER A FOUL BALL ON THE LINE IN A PRESEASON GAME….aND YOU TURNING ME OFF FROM SERIOUSLY PAYING MUCH ATTENTION TOO MUCH OF THIS ANTISEMITE WHINING WHEN REAL ENEMYS LIKE SOROS ARE BUILDING A BON-FIRE AROUND THE STATE OF ISREAL wITH CONTINUED LOVE FOR MY JEWISH BROTHERS AND SISTERS FROM A CHRISTIAN BILL MURPHY
Dear Mark,
As a Jew who has taught in Israel as a Fulbright Fellow, and who has worked on Jewish-Christian relations for many years, I appreciate your sensitivity to the issue of nonJews gratuitiously using the shoah for their own purposes. It is almost like antisemites accusing Jews of having changed their name to avoid antisemitism. My family never did, but I can understand that sometimes there is very little choice.
But having said all this, George Soros is hardly an exemplary figure in the Jewish community. Compare him to someone like Elie Wiesel, with a similar background. Wiesel has always been a proud an impassioned Jew, with a deep humnanitarian instinct. Soros has always been a cold disaffected Jew who has been a bit of a predator and the worst kind of phony, posing as an anticapitalist savant while in reality being among the worst of capitalists himself. He is not just a limousine liberal, but a Mercedes marxist.
No serious Jew has anything but dislike for Soros. He has never identified as a Jew, seems to have shown no remorse for the actions he was perhaps compelled to perform as a boy to survive, says there was no reason for him to feel the normal remorse any human being, especially any Jewish child, should feel, has been detached or unjustly critical of Israel, has been behind such destructive groups as J-street, and is generally anathema to serious Jews. That he has funded projects such as Open Society does not detract from my overall evaluation of him. NEGATIVE IN THE EXTREME. I don’t know if Glen Beck should be the person denouncing him, but why do not Jewish leaders do so? Forget Glen Beck, it is easy for Abe Foxman to denounce him. How about Foxman, as a Jew, denouncing George Soros, and J-street. I can tell you that despite his roughness (and not privy to his inner motives,) Glen Beck has stood up for the interests of the Jewish people more than has George Soros ever. So condemn Beck, if you want, Abe Foxman, but also condemn George Soros for being disaffected if not hostile toward his own people. Be honest here.
Shalom, everyone. Unfortunately, most of these comments reinforce the worst stereotypes about Beck’s viewers and listeners. There’s not much for me to respond to, but I’ll try.
First of all, this is a religion blog, not a political one. As I said in the column, Beck is free to criticize George Soros’s politics and positions all day long. As far as I’m concerned, you can hate Soros and pray for his death as much as you’d like. I posted the essay after reading many stories in the Jewish media criticizing Beck. I thought I’d explain why an increasing number of Jewish leaders are (justifiably, in my opinion) concerned about his comments. If Beck and his supporters really care about the Jewish community, they will take note instead of trying to make excuses.
@Pete Town - I’ll put my track record in the Jewish community against Glenn Beck’s any day of the week.
@Maryam - since there is no excommunication in modern Judaism, Soros is still a Jew (as are other Jews whom you may not like, like Bernie Madoff). Unless a Jew voluntarily converts to another faith (especially Christianity), he/she is still Jewish. For this reason atheists can still be Jewish.
@chenneblkbenne - the issue is not whether Beck has the right to say these things, but whether it is wise for him to offend many Jews by doing so.
@steveo and others - I’m not on Soros’s payroll. I guess you don’t have a serious argument to make.
@Bree - scan the Jewish media if you really think that this is an issue of “tangential” Jewish interest. I am not Jewish, and am not speaking on behalf of every Jew. Ethnicity has always been a part of Jewish identity. If you don’t think so, you may want to talk to the Israeli government about its immigration policies.
@Avi and Nussbaum - many thanks for your support.
@mike - exactly. Thank you for the clarification.
@essie - I have read Horowitz’s books and have met him on several occasions. You let me know when he praises Beck’s attack on Soros’s activities during the Holocaust.
@Kslman (last but certainly not least) - again, this was not an essay praising George Soros or exalting him as a model Jew. You actually captured my point when you wrote “I don’t know if Glen Beck should be the person denouncing him.” My point exaxctly.
Thank you all for taking the time to write.
I MEET SOROS HE SENT ME AND 34 OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS TO AUSCHWITZ. HE INFORMED ON US AND TOLD THE SS OUR LOCATION. THE MAN SHOULD BE TRIED AS A WAR CRINMAL. BY THE WAY 29 NEVER LEFT AUSCHWITZ ALIVE. I BELIEVE HE HAS MY FATHER DIAMOND AND GOLD RING, WE GAVE HIM TO NOT INFORM ON US.
@ Mr. John Springer,
Dear Sir, I mean no disrespect to you or what you claim to have suffered. The accusation you level in your post at 11/12/10 11:36am is one that should not just be said without further information to back up your words. I do not make light of your plight or of your claim, I would only ask that you give more if possible to substantiate what you are saying about Mr. Soros involvement in WWII.
Can you provide better evidence of such a thing?
It is truly unfortunate that the Jewish leadership inthe U.S. has chosen to place their collective heads in the sand and continue to live in denial. There is a long list of examples in this regard, just to name a few: Communist espionage in the U.S. has been focused around Jews starting in the late 1920’s until present day; Communist Party International and in the U.S. have always had Jews in leadership positions; the Rosenbergs; the ACLU; the unions; ACORN; every anti - U.S. movement; etc. They have long denied that Jews helped the NAZIs and the Soviet Union to imprison and kill JEWS, just mention Kapos or Capos and prepare for these same organizations to say anti-Semite.
Personally, I have never understood the Jewish leadership support of Obama who is far beyond Anti-Semite. Given the opportunity in his quest of Communist Dictatorship he would make the Holocaust look insignificant in comparison to what he would do to Jews and persons without color in the U.S..
Supporting Soros and Obama is indefensible! All you have to do is read their books and documentary evidence, and listen / read their interviews, and listen to their speeches.
We have deported people to Germany and Israel for having done less than Soros did in the prelude to and during WWII. He is a convicted felon in at least three countries in which he destabilized the governments, undermined the currencies, and attempted to overthrow trhe legitimate governments and no they were not Communist countries. By his own words he is a Communist and an atheist who has enjoyed his criminal activities from childhood.
This is documented, as are the actions taken by the Obama government following the 23 plus visits to the White House.
“I don’t know how well Glenn Beck knows the organized Jewish community, but he definitely has a Jewish problem.”
No, he (and many) have an issue with the leftist problem. Of which, Americans Jews seem to baffling lean towards (democrats). F SOROS!
To call Soros a Holocaust Survivor is to deeply insult the real survivors. His parents hated everything about Judaism. They denounced everything about their heritage, including their own name. Soros relished the role that was given him as a young man, and said, in an interview,that it was one of the happier times in his life.
Mr.Paredes, I think it’s obvious your name sits on that loooooong list of Soros’ hired hands.
It seems as if Mark has his head in the sand. I am not Jewish, nor do I have anything against the Jews. I did my research. It’s blatantly obvious that Soros is a power hungry self described God (his own words). For your own sake Mark, please do some research. Dig a little deeper. Watch videos of Soros, listen to his words. He is the compassionate philanthropist that you paint him as. He is a monster. Even the other Jews commenting here are saying that Soros gives the Jews a bad name. Soros is an athiest. That doesn’t make him a Jew. If you asked him if he is a Jew, he would say “no.” If he was a Jew, well, then he would really bring a bad name to the Jewish culture/religion/community. Read about mediamatters, opensocietyfoundation, moveon.org. And don’t read about them from their own websites, that would be, well, slightly biased. Do some research. Dig in. Get your feet wet. He’s got his hands stretched across much more than anyone could imagine. Wake up people.
Typo.
“He is (not) the compassionate philanthropist that you paint him as.”
Soros claim’s he is greek
jason paradis: DEAR JASON, EVERYONE BUT ME IS IN THE HANDS OF GOD. I AM CLOSE TO MEETING GOD MYSELF, AS I AM DYING OF CANCER. I WAS 9 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME, BUT REMEMBER IT AS IT WAS YESTERDAY. IF YOU CARE TO VISIT BE IN NAPLES FLORIDA, WILL BE GLAD TO GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION I HAVE ABOUT SOROS.
@ John Springer
I would like to meet you in person and chronicle your story.
Is it a surprise that Beck would say this about Soros, when this “news organization” championed the Tea Party representations of Obama as Hitler? Fox does follow a genuinely nazi maxim: the big lie. This is not an insult, but an analysis of their propaganda techniques against those they go after.
I saw the programs and felt that Beck is “pro Israel”. I sense that the writer of this article is bias. Look at the serious issues that Beck brings up and don’t get your panties in a knot over secondary issues. Is he wrong on his evaluation of Sorso I’m afraid not.
>>First of all, know your limits vis-à-vis Jews. It’s almost always a bad idea for a Gentile to call a Jew an anti-Semite.
Mark and some others, your comments corraborate the existence of Jewish supremacism. I had some repect for Jews. But now, you made of an antisemite.
So Glen can’t criticize Soros as an antisemite, but Jews can…well, as a descendent of Rabbis, and as a Jew myself on both sides going back thousands of years, let me tell you what I think of George Soros—-he’s a vicious antisemite who wants to murder 5.5 million Jews in Israel. The fact that he was born Jewish does not make him any less malevolent, vile, despicable, and evil. He’s a Hamas supporter. He’s no cousin of mine.
And to those Jews who defend Soros—-you guys (and I mean YOU Foxman, you Liberal Ass) are the ones helping to create a second Holocaust. Put that in your bongs and smoke it. You don’t recognize your allies like Beck and Pastor Hagee, and your enemies, like Soros and Chomsky, when you see them.
Any questions, Liberal fools? Have I made myself perfectly clear? Beck is right on this one.
Occam’s Tool,
Thank you. Thanks to people like you and Mark Levin I will probably never become antisemite after all.
May Gd bless Israel!
May He also destroy the heathen like Soros and his angels that folloow him.
I have always been supportive of the Jewish people until now. Your support of Soros has greatly angered your most loyal friends and you owe them an apology. There is no excuse for your behavior other than you too, have been bought with his filthy money.
I think most of the people who have posted to this comments section are the best argument in favor of “armageddon” that any “God” would ever need to wipe us all out and start over yet again. The stage is set perfectly for it in the middle east (apocalypse now indeed), and its a demented race between the allegedly “chosen” (who have zero archaeological evidence to back up the majority of their biblical claims as “fact” that actually happened) and their vapid white-bread WASP wannabees who think Jesus was a right wing conservative like them (and also as white as them if you believe protestant church paintings), to see which of the two groups of “believers” can be the most insufferably arrogant about it. Then there is Islam, which is nothing more than an arabic carbon copy regurgitation of the lies created by Josiah around 600 BC. The biblical timeline is so far off from known history that its almost a joke to compare the two timelines side by side. The “great flood” and Noah would have occured about 2500 BC, the same time that certain old Jews allegedly lived several hundred years and more, unlike anyone else on the planet at that time in history who died at normal ages for the time. Cmon, face the TRUTH: there was no Abraham, there was no Moses, there was no Noah, and its as much of an outright MYTH as the Greek ones. Therefore, Beck (and other Mormons), Christians, Judaics, and Muslims are all equally deluded. Put down the bible and the koran and open a real history book, instead of trying to twist everything to fit what youve been taught to believe.
I found a lot of what I was reading here about Soros hard to believe, so I went to You Tube and sure enough, in an interview with Charlie Rose (listen to #5 of 6) Soros describes as “the happiest years of my life” the years in which he kicked the Jews from their homes and helped send them to their deaths. I listened to all 6 videos of the Charlie Rose interview and it is clear that GEORGE SOROS IS A VERY DANGEROUS DEMENTED MAN. Did you also know he just gave $1.8 million to Public Radio? Gee… I thought they were “supposed” to be a neutral news source…? Soros has bankrolled the Democratic Party and after sending this information to my family members they finally admitted they will not vote Democrat any more as it is no longer the party of John F. Kennedy. When I listen to Kennedy it is like listening to Ronald Reagan. What has happened to our Democrat party that it has been so contaminated by the most extreme leftist socialist Marxist communists? I never thought my family would be voting Republican but I can no longer in good conscience support this party of extremism.
Wow, I can’t believe I read all the preceding comments and this article. I am a moderate, though liberal leaning and actually sent a letter to Soros recently because I thought of him, for some reason, as someone who might support my cause. I’m probably very wrong, but I hope he got my letter anyway, though I doubt it. He is obviously a disaffected Jew. I say Jew as an ethnic term, hence like being Chinese or French, nothing can change that. If you have a clue about Jewish history you know what I mean.
I agree with Saint Subversive regarding criticism for religions, however I believe in these texts in spite of how the religious leaders, as far as I am concerned have failed completely to represent God, in varying degrees. For example just to say 2500 B.C., as Saint Subversive references, is such an insult to the people of that time. Whatever dating system they used, it was not counting backwards. The fact that NO ONE except myself, that I know of, notices, questions and challenges this idiocy is inexcusable. The bullies and cowards of Judeo-Christianity are very much to blame.
I just feel like both sides have their points in all these comments.
I also find it funny that many Jewish circles are more accepting of athiests than someone like myself, a believer in Jesus and Moses (and Joseph too, by the way). The Jewish community must be blamed for the results of their own history. I most certainly do blame them and do accept the blame and try to learn from the mistakes. They talk about pride and being proud. To be proud to be Jewish means to me that you are proud of the Holocaust. Most will say, “Yes, that’s right.” I say, “That means you would like the Holocaust to happen again. That is correct. That is exactly what being proud to be Jewish means.” Hence I consider most Jews to be their own worst enemies. How the Hell else do I grow up reading and watching videos of 6 million, one-third of the Jewish people/religion being massacred, clueless and helpless? I’ll tell you how, with leaders who fit all the stereotypes and followers who encourage all this, proudly. I am beyond being ashamed. I, like George Soros, quit. I am no longer a Jew. However, I am not an anti-Semite. You see my brown/hazel eyes and dark brown hair make it clear, I am a Semite. Now put that in you pipe and smoke it.
If not feeding the over-inflated proud egos of the Jewish community means being called all sorts of names, including anti-Semite or self-hating, etc., etc., well then have at it. Just remember as I learned a long time ago… Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me. Actually that aphorism is not completely true, names very much hurt, especially when they are true. This I learned later on. Here’s another one for all the labelers and name-callers and judgemental folks, ‘I’m rubber, you’re glue, whatever you say bounces off me, and sticks to you.’ Or in modern terminology, Projection!
I was raised faithfully but strayed shortly after my Bar Mitzvah. 44 years later after tragedy in my life I returned to my faith and I take comments about it and comments about others who allegedly have offended it very seriously.
When you talk about Beck what you are missing is that he is talking about the man Soros, not the Jew Soros, if indeed you can even consider Soros a jew at this point in time. His significant issue with Soros are the people and policies he supports today.
If you are left liberal you will find ways to bash him but to use religion as a way is quite aggregious. If Beck choses to report on Soros as a kid based on what Soros himself wrote then you are missing the point. It is a reference merely to state what Soros was capable of in reference to who he has become.
We Jews are proud of who we are and always will be but we cannot allow for a man who professes one world order. As a Jew, are you not taught that the one world order would be that of the Jews upon the coming of the Mesiah. Soros himself has hinted he might be that man. God help us if there were ever any truth to that.
As a person who supports Israel and Jews, why you do not confirm if Soros said these things. Why play into the liberal medias hands (and they do not support you). If Beck only commented on Sorros on statements; then you should applaud him for bringing this to light. Instead, you attack him. Why do you wish to silence someone who does not attack you? This is why America is a falling power. There is no more truth allowed. GOD BLESS AMERICA
Mr Peredes headline should read “I don’t get it” but maybe Mr Peredes is following his liberal think path defending a non practicing Jew, a proffesed atheist who spends his life and money defacing the Jewish faith and homeland. This guy, Soros should be in prison for his past actions and needs to be exposed for what he is and represents. I suggest Mr Paredes check his facts before he writes a criticism of Glenn Beck now and in the future.
Much ado about nothing!I suppose the LIBERAL JEWISH LEADERS WOULD RATHER HAVE AMADENAJAD INVITE THEM TO IRAN? GLENN BECK HAS NEVER SAID ANYTHING DEROGATORY ABOUT THE JEWS INCLUDING GEORGE SOROS. He does speak the truth about him and by the words of SOROS he is out to crush the United States of America, and make A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT! This man irrespective of he being a JEW is hand and glove with SATAN, for he is doing SATAN’S bidding!
“. . . is completely inappropriate, offensive and over the top.. . .”
I note they don’t say it’s a FALSE STATEMENT and, by trying to paper over this, they sort of confirm that it’s TRUE!! Don’t they?
Veteran’s Day was this week. I served. Glen Beck did not, coward.
I’m a Jewish-Atheist-NRA Member. Born and raised.
PS Most of the men and women I served with were pretty liberal - but then again, those that can actually handle themselves in combat-don’t watch Glen Beck or much TV-They actually get things done.
All the far leftist are out to defend Soros a self admitted Jew hater. Far left Jews just can’t stand anyone on the right so they ally with Soris, how pathetic.
Now I may not be a Beck fan, but he is a far better friend to Israel and Jews than Soros has ever been.
What is wrong with Jews who are more against the right, than they are for Israel and their own brothers?
Good article. Beck is carefully using Code Words that are classically anti-Semitic with his latest slander of George Soros.
Beck’s characterization of Soros as the “International Financier” who is supposedly responsible for causing economic crises is straight out of vile publications like “The Elders of Zion”. This vicious stereotype of Jews has been around for centuries. Now Beck is trying to revive it.
Whether you like a person or not, it is a despicable crime to accuse someone of aiding the Nazis and helping to put Jews to death.
But this vicious and false slander is even more contemptible when the person you’re lying about was an innocent teenager who was fighting for his own survival as a young Jewish boy living under Hitler.
But Glenn Beck doesn’t care about that: he just wants to “get” George Soros. And no lie is too extreme as long as it serves Beck’s need for character assassination against those he wants to destroy.
Beck is reprehensible. And clearly anti-Semitic, however much he tries to hide it by his public support of Israel. How long will companies pay to sponsor his divisive hate speech
I received my Ph.D. from the same “Fabian Socialist” school Soros got his Bachelor’s degree from. I could not be more opposed to his political and economic views. He wants to replace US self-government with an “open society” and he does not hesitate to destroy economies in pursuit of profit.
I watch Glenn Beck daily. He is very supportive of Israel and the Jewish people. His Soros material is well sourced, and based on video quotes in context of Soros himself.
The Jewish Journal is becoming increasingly left-wing and untrustworthy. Four smears of Beck in the same week is a new low. The Journal needs to save its reputation with independent reporting on this before it is too late.
The comments here reflect on some of the deepest dilemmas underlying ancient and modern Jewish history.
Let me say, at the outset, that one can be rightly suspicious of Beck’s use of historically antisemitic code words such as “international financier” and at the same time rightly see Soros himself as the worst kind of “self-hating and self-denying Jew.” Antisemitism has been a nine-headed hydra which must be fought simultaneously on many fronts. Let me give some historical examples in recent times. First, Napoleon’s offering emancipation to French Jews with the proviso that they stop being Jews living in France and become Frenchman of the Jewish faith. Indeed he convened an ersatz Sandhedrin to this effect, in 1804, I believe. The Jews of the west loved this and the religious Jews of the east feared this. Napoleon’s credo: To Jews as individuals nothing, to Jews as a nation nothing. People who support Soros are unconsciously buying into this view, which the Dreyfus affair some 90 years later convinced the assimilated Herzl that Zionism (the reassertion of the Jewish peoplehood) was the only hope for European Jewry. And Herzl proved tragically correct.
So, Glen Beck, whatever his motives, supports Israel and the Jewish people as a collective, though he may use antisemitic stereotyps a singling out a particular Jew (Soros ) as an enemy of humanity, and perhaps almost in Beck’s view, portraying himself (through a convoluted replacement theology which ha always been the heart of antisemtism) as a true Jew, unlike the fallen away Jews such as Foxman and Soros. On the other hand, supporters of that very unsavory fellow, Soros, such as Foxman, so focused on discrimination agains against a particular Jew that they don’t sufficiently grasp, that whatever his motives, Beck is much more supportive of Israel as the Jewish state and Zionism, then is Soros.
I don’t like Soros at all, but if he wants to contribute to Jewish and Judeo-Christian causes as well has universal causes, we should welcome his help. If he continues to be an enemy or at best an adversary, supporting clostly antiIsrael groups such as J-street, then he should be opposed. Likewise, Beck’s support of Israel should be acknowledged and his use of individual antisemitic stereotypes should be condemned. Beneath all this is the question whether it is the so-called enlighetened secular world of today or the Judeo-Christian world that is more supportive of Jewish survival with regard to Israel. Some years ago, I would quickly have answered the secular world is more our friend. Now I think I put more faith in the Judeo-Christian world for understanding the importance of Zion and that our return to Eretz Yisrael has been a return not an occupation. In fact, the use of the world occupation is curious. As it was the replacement theology Christians (not most Evangelicals, thank God) who really occupied Jewish history, claiming to be the “New Israel” replacing the Old. In other words the Church historically occupied Jewish history, turning us into a discarded remnant. And Zionism has righted this wrong, and we have returned to Zion, and the Jewish covenant with our Creator remains unbroken. We are very happy to welcome our younger brothers in faith (the Christian community) into the Tent of Israel, but not at the expense of displacing the elder brother. People like John Hagee, bless him, specificially attack the pernicious quality of this displacement theology and call for a dual covenant theology. Unlike Jerry Falwell in an earlier part of his career, Hagee would never say that “God does not hear Jewish prayers” as did Falwell. Hagee in fact acknowledges Christian guilt in the Shoah but seems to recognize the enlightenment was equally at fault.
Correction.
I inadvertantly misparaphrased the Napoleonic offer to French Jews. It is of course, “To the Jews as individuals, everything; to the Jews as a nation, nothing.”
So, let me make this easy. As a Jew, a virulent Zionist, and one whose entire family perished in the Shoah - George Soros is an antisemite. A self hating Jew who not only left his religion, but intermarried and did not raise his children in the Jewish faith. Enough said.
“A self hating Jew…” Actually I think he probably hates (to use the term you lovely people love to throw around constantly in your sickening finger-pointing way) ohter Jews, probably creeps like you who have all your sickening little labels and categories for not only yourself, but everyone else too. I just don’t know why you people/religion whine have everyone hates you. There really is just so little to like. Sorry children the truth hurts. All that money won’t make me like you either.
He left his religion. I wonder why? LOL Probably to get away from creeps like you Mr. Luftwaffer. Achtung
Wow, Br. Paredes, I think, actually this is one you should have left alone, not Glenn Beck. It would appear that your feelings for the Jewish community made you come out against Beck as a way to distance yourself from your co-religionist. It would appear, however, that the Jews who are taking offense to Beck’s words are motivated by their liberal politics and not their tribal affiliation, but use that affiliation as cover for denouncing arch-conservative Beck. (Incidentally, I’m not a follower of Beck.)
Mr. Paredes: Your knee jerk reaction to a fellow Mormon aside, I suggest that before YOU write about a subject YOU investigate it. If you did you would see that Glenn Beck did his homework and can back up the statements about Soros with SORO’S OWN WORDS. The fact that Soros is a self-hating Jew who gives none of his money to Jewish causes and backs people who wish Israel’s destruction may not be known to you, but it should before you ATTACK GLENN. I would taken ten thousand Mormon friends like Glenn before ONE like you! Gentile to Gentile: BACK OFF AND DO SOME STUDYING BEFORE YOU SPEAK. I DID!
“It is painful, troubling and disquieting to see Jewish leaders defending any actions by George Soros, someone who has shown himself to be an active antagonist of Israel and the U.S., whom he blames for the world’s troubles,” ZOA National President Morton A. Klein says in the statement.
“In light of Soros’ hatred of Israel and the United States; his continuous efforts to harm them; the absence of any subsequent remorse and feeling as an adult over the events he witnesses in Nazi-occupied Hungary as a 14-year old; as well as the fact that Glenn Beck’s comments were essentially accurate, George Soros merits no defense or sympathy from Jewish leaders,” he adds.
@ John Springer,
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your response to my question. It is an honor to speak with you. I would very much like to hear more from you. I will hope and pray for an opportunity to be in Naples as soon as possible.
Yours,
Jason Paradis
Apparently you did not contact Glenn Beck before you slandered him. Abe Foxman wrote a letter to Glenn Beck (which he read on his radio show) APOLOGIZING profusely for the ADL statement, which he had nothing to do with. He acknowledged Beck as a friend to Jews and Israel. Oh and what part of “I will not call him an anti-semite” do you not understand? OR I’m not making a judgement”. Did you even watch the show? I think I know the answer to that one. I will not be reading your columns again.You are clearly biased and uninterested in the truth.
@Deborah Gaebler - Abe Foxman’s letter that you refer to was written to Glenn BEFORE he made his anti-Soros statements. Foxman stands by the ADL letter slamming Glenn that was sent in response to his comments last week. Once again, there were two ADL letters sent to Glenn. It’s always important to do your research before calling someone “biased” and “uninterested in the truth.” You Beck cultists are all morons.
Let me get this straight. ADL falsely attacks Beck. Beck objects. Foxman apologizes, says it was an error, and writes that Beck is a friend of the Jews and of Israel. Beck exposes Soros economic and political subversion. Suddenly Foxman rewrites history and attacks Beck.
No sale.
Attaboy Dave. Maybe Mark Paredes can wake up and figure out that it is not Glenn Beck who doesn’t get it but Mark Paredes and the Jewish Journal. George Soros playing the victim is ludicrous.
As this latest campaign against Beck was begun, Frank Rich of the Times wrote an article called ‘Who Will Stand Up to the Superrich?’ Who indeed? The article was about the ‘Bush’ tax cuts but the sentiment better fits Beck Vs.
Dr. EvilSoros.@tom d on
You are correct in pointing out the need to remain accurate with Mr. Foxman’s letter. You also showed wisdom by reminding others to conduct proper research before using labels. Unfortunately you’ve fallen prey to the same folly by ending your thoughts with “Beck cultists are all morons.”
1. Glen Beck is many things, some of which I don’t care for but he does not meet the definition of a cult leader, nor do the majority of those who watch his programs accurately apply as cultists.
2. Using “Morons” in such a generalization is not beneficial to convincing others to agree with your position, it undermines your own words about proper research before labeling people and ignores the reality that intelligent people can agree with Beck on many principles without losing their intellectual stability.
Its a shame really, you started off strong and would have convinced me of your thoughts if not for your poor choice of last words.
I also found tom d’s post interesting though I thought his last comment was kind of funny or strange. However, unlike you, Jason Paradis, I don’t dismiss tom d’s other words based upon his last comment. You sound like so many of these cult followers in dismissing words not based upon their validity, but because his last statement was off-base, his previous statements become obsolete. That is so completely moronic to use tom d’s term. Now you can completely dismiss what I said because I used a “bad word.” This is one more bit of evidence that you folks are like 5 year-olds. Totally sickening, just totally self-righteous sickening.
Now if you didn’t mean what you said, then you shouldn’t say it. Before you tell me that you didn’t mean what you said.
@ Theleviteline.com
Actually, I did mean what I said and I’ve no reason to retract it.
My premise is the knowledge that when debating a perspective, a person should be very careful to attack the issues they disagree with and not the people with whom they disagree. Its a fundamental of diplomacy and proper debate, make your points well without becoming personal. That was the idea that I attempted to make with Tom d. His position was right on target in terms of the need to show strong efforts to research what we speak about before we speak, but he weakened his position by using a direct attack on a particular group of people at the end. The truth of what he spoke was not weaker but the ability for it to be received by his intended audience was hindered. This is a common sense notion, if you want to change the mind of your opponent don’t insult him or her. We are all human and being insulted immediately brigns your average human being into a subjective mindset. Once we are no longer looking through an objective lense we have a habit of turning off our ability to receive the benefits of our opponents debate.
There is no intentional self-righteousness here only a little common sense. If a person wants to make a point clear and received the should try to avoid “the appearance” of hypocrisy if at all possible and avoid insults to a person or group of people. By indicating that I was turned off to the rest of his message as a result of his insult I was trying to show the double edged sword of marrying a good point with an insult. I admit that perhaps a bit to much of my teacher’s mindset was coming out in that regard.
Outside of the concern I’ve outlined I am completely on board with Tom d’s position on proper research.
To Tom Hall’s comment that “Jews” have been in the forefront of “anti-American” activities such as the ACLU and ACORN and “every anti-US movement”; and that “capos” demonstrate Jewish complicity in the holocaust—your comments demonstrate signficant lack of knowledge and emotional prejudice. Capos were prisoners forced at immediate threat of death to carry out orders of nazi camp administrators. ACORN and the ACLU are left-leaning patriotic organizations, jsut like there are right-leaning patriotic organizations.
I just read your last line, Jason Paridis, “I remain encouaged at our converation nevertheless and look forward to your response what ever it may be with excitement and trepidation.” I had not read it initially and that I like, especially “excitement and trepidation.’ As opposed to only expecting and hoping for “positive” and “happy” crap. I’m not hear to babysit and probably won’t sugarcoat my words. Based upon those two words maybe you are capable of dealing with reality.
Jason:
Don’t strain your brain. He is a dingbat. End of story. Take my word for it or waste your time and effort and come to the same conclusion. As you choose.
Why so upset? I can’t possibly be the first to call you a dingbat. And why so abusive? I certainly wish you all the luck in the world finding your marbles.
Actually most people, except (Ashke)nazis understand that, if nothing else, I am intelligent. No, actually no one has ever called me a dingbat. I believe Archie Bunker was the only one I can recall who used such a term. Of course he was portraying a right-wing bigot. In your case I assume this is not an act.
As for my marbles, they’ve been collected and while it might seem that I have more than most, I don’t. Most of y’all just don’t have the juevos to use the ones God gave you.
We have only your word for it that you are intelligent. Perhaps you can find a Sephardic Jew to vouch for you. But intelligence alone is over-rated. And there is no contradiction between being intelligent and being a dingbat.
Mark Parades writes:
“I don’t know how well Glenn Beck knows the organized Jewish community, but he definitely has a Jewish problem. This week he gratuitously slandered a prominent Jewish philanthropist in probably the worst way that you can slander a Holocaust survivor, and many Jewish leaders are justifiably outraged.”
Mark, you have a SEVERE credibility problem at this point. So George Soros is a “prominent Jewish philanthropist”? LOL! Give me a break!!
He’s a nihilistic left-wing radical who’s hell-bent on ruining America’s founding brilliance. This isn’t about Judaism v. Christianity. It’s about freedom vs. tyranny. I know where Glenn Beck and the overwhelming majority of Jews stand on that issue, Mark.
Hey Mark, Glenn doesn’t have “a Jewish problem”, he just doesn’t share your politics.
theleviteline
It’s not name-calling, nor even directed at you. Just a friendly warning to commenter Jason who had obviously not yet experienced your befuddled autistic hate rants (that has changed) and stood to lose his time and mental energy trying to make sense of them. No thanks necessary. Incidentally, for all you try to box me in as a right winger or Ashkenazi Jew, I am actually post-ethnic and politically independent. The ilk of the future.
@ Morgon Onlins: don’t be too sure about Beck. He routinely debases the horror of the holocaust by ustilizing the term “nazi” to mean anyone who believes the government should help the poor. He is also very reliant on extremist anti-Semitis. See for example, http://mediamatters.org/blog/201010070019
Media Matters is in the pay of George Soros and routinely lies and takes material out of context. To the extent that you are expressing your own facts, they are also lies.
Glenn Beck has used “Nazi” to refer to the use of Bernays’ book on Propaganda by Goebbels; a well documented fact. He has also used it to describe the Nazi party’s adoption of eugenics, also well documented, and related to the now-proven charge of “death panels” in the new Health law, and by quotes on video of some of Obama’s advisors such as John Holdren.
Thank you very much David Sternlight! The TRUTH matters more than miserable politics when the charge of anti-Semitism is made. These are naked and shameless politcal attacks on Glenn Beck, and I think they’re despicable.
If I had the BEGINNING of a notion that Glenn was a Jew hater, I wouldn’t watch him anymore. I’m pretty sensitive about that charge since my father’s Jewish.
Here’s the sad thing. The charge of anti-Semitism is SO carelessly thrown out there that it will soon be as meaningless as the charge of “racist”, which has come to mean, ‘anyone who wins an argument with a Democrat or a leftist.’
PLEASE, I implore you NOT to throw the charge of anti-Semite around carelessly! Save it for the real Jew hating schmucks, like Jimmy Carter.
a) I never said Beck was a “jew hater”, and was instead responding to the allegation that he had no “problem” within the Jewish community. He does.
b) he does so for the reasons I stated: i) he debases the Holocaust by constantly using the term “nazi” in inappropriate anloagies, including even the United States Health Care policy and the issue of “living wills” and govt efforts to help the poor etc.; and 2) by his strong endorsement of the viscious anti-Semite (for her I will use the term) Elizabeth Dilling—who ironically was an actual nazi sympathizer.
c) I have never used the term anti-semite carelessly, and I agree with Morgan that it should not be so used.
@tbomb—
Part b) of your answer PROVES that you’re trying to control what he says, and that your objections to Glenn are politically based, rather than factually based.
In the final analysis, Glenn is NO anti-Semite, and he did nothing more than tell the truth about the feral animal—(and CAPO at that)—George Soros. Did you watch his show tonight? If so, you’d feel rather silly.
Glenn honored the story of Passover.
Hey Morgan:
I don’t see it is “political” to object to the inappropriate use of the term “nazi”. I do so in all contexts because it generally debases the Holocaust. To call it “nazi” for doctors to consult with patients over living will concepts, or to use the term to apply to American unions (as he has done) and the like is highly inappropriate no matter your political persuasion. He uses the term so loosely and so often it has become almost a paradoy when he does so.
I object just as strenuosly when the far left uses such terms to describe bulding the wall in Israel, or by installing checkpoints for safety etc.
and what about his endorsement and embrace of Dilling? The fact that she was an ardent nazi appologist seems to be ignored by you. That Beck “honored” the Passover has zero to do with anything. Lip service to what he calls the “Old” testament doesn’t counter his misuse of the Holocaust for his personal gain.
I am also not a Soro’s supporter by any means, not even an admirer. although I also do not endorse the view that he is the Anti-Christ or “boogy man”.
I see Beck as an entertainer making $32 million a year with a shtick that he likely doesn’t even beleive in himself. He reminds me of L. Ron Hubbard, where people following him into Scientology even tho it sounds so close to his science fiction writing.
Beck used to have a comedy show in which he used voices to pretended to be wackos that he would interview on supposedly serious topics. He did it as if it was real, and people would call in believing he was serious and make arguments with the fake guest. It was a pretty funny show. Now people still think he is serious and he is cashing in big time. He tells his audience of his conspiracy theories and how they need to buy gold becaue the money system is going to be “ruined”, and then he shifts to his gold selling sponser so he gets a piece of the action for himself. Barnum and Bailey.
It is clear that tbomb hasn’t watched Beck for any length of time but is repeating scurrilous charges he’s heard (or making them up. As one who watches Beck daily, I have to say that I’ve never seen him “embrace” Dilling. Beck doesn’t use “conspiracy theories”; he simply presents facts backed up by video clips of those he cites, convicted out of their own mouth. When a key player says “I am a Communist” i tend to believe him (for example). When I see union thugs beating up peaceful protestors or intimidating voters, with my own eyes, I tend to believe them,
Your posts remind me of the famous line “Who are you going to believe; me or your lying eyes.”
As to the shameful comment “a shtick he likely doesn’t even believe in himself”, unless your mind-reading powers are greater than those vouchsafed to ordinary mortals, you have no credibility. And unlike Hubbard, Beck constantly says “Don’t believe me; check the facts out for yourself.”
As far as Beck’s conclusions about public policy matters in which he calls many administration claims lies, he has been proven right by subsequent revelations. The President has lied repeatedly about the health care bill; Beck called him on it; subsequent analyses by the government itself proved Beck correct.
Speaking more broadly, I knew who Obama was during the campaign, when after assuring the AIPAC in a public speech that Jerusalem would continue to be the undivided capital of the State of Israel, he took it back the next morning when the Arabs didn’t like it. My intuition has proven correct over and over again by Obama’s actions; nothing to do with Beck, though Beck has also called him out.
I am loathe to accuse anybody of anti-semitism. I feel comfortable calling Glenn Beck an unscupulous, dishonest, conniving, hateful attack dog whose targets happen to be Jewish a disturbing portion of his air time.
as a jew the blindness, aka liberalness, of the jewish journal nauseates me.
get off the g-damn kibbutz.
Since Zsusi reopened this thread:
1. I’ve watched Beck daily followed his blog since the Fox show ended. He is an equal opportunity exposer of corruption, showing whites, blacks, orientals, Jews, Christians, and Atheist underminers of freedom in their own words and through their own actions. His main tools are research, in-context video quotes, and simple logic.
2. Beck is supported by many prominent Rabbis and Jewish legislators with impeccable credentials, as well as senior israeli government leaders across the spectrum.
3. Beck’s critics are lefties with an agenda to socialize America and the world. They are even willing to junk the Constitution when it does not support, or interferes with their globalist ideology.
4. I have been a government official at the very top of the civil service, as well as a professional economist and the Chief Economist of two Fortune 50 companies. My analytic training at MIT came with a very sensitive b.s. detector; if Beck were up to something I’d know it at once. In contrast many of his critics are, not to put too fine a point on it, operating with a hidden totalitarian agenda: “my way or the highway”.
5. Rob Eshman is a biased ideologue and a journalistic disgrace; he has now had ample time to correct his blunder of four anti-Beck attack articles in the same issue with no counterpoint in that issue. He has not done so, has lost any trust as an honest editor, and since he seems uninterested in resigning, should be replaced.
David Sternlight, Ph.D.
Westwood
This will rock your world:
http://vimeo.com/26667051
Thanks, Dave. I just watched the whole thing. What an inspired choice to address CUFI! This blog has a generally elevated level of discussion. Looking upon it now my opinion of it has fallen several notches. How Mark Pareses simply dismisses the many articulate and heartfelt comments reacting and objecting to his piece is beyond me. The piece itself strikes me as clueless and bizarre.
Deafness in the face of evidence is the sure sign of an ideologue.
...aka “My mind is made up. Don’t confuse me with facts.”
Full disclosure: the above post is mine; my fill-in software put in “patt” a name I do not use.
I get the feeling that the Jewish divisions into Orthodox, Conservative and Reform have a correspondence among Christians including Mormons, and birds of a feather will find each other. I also note that among Muslims it works in the reverse direction.
Israel, no restraint, no concession to the Arabs rev.
Any restraint is counterproductive. Israel must respond with maximum extreme force. This is the only way to subdue the enemy. This is the enemy that wants to throw you into the sea.
I would gladly support a major offensive against Gaza or any other Arab Palestinians that are hurting Israelis in any shape or form.
Many years ago when Sharon was defense minister of Israel (while his wife was alive) his policy was, any violent acts by the Palestinian Arabs were returned with extreme force, and it worked.
Why have we changed tactics, have we become too soft, too worried about world opinion.