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Oliver Stone is a Vietnam vet who fought for this country and then returned home to make some important movies that exposed the horrors of that war to his fellow Americans. He is a true American patriot. Saban, on the other hand has exploited what America has to offer by making billions off a mind numbing childrens TV series replete with violence and buying and selling TV stations all designed to enrich his bank account. What he has done for this country is zilch! And yet he has the nerve to criticize Oliver Stone for expressing what the Sabans of this world would happily suppress, which is freedom of speech. If Saban has his way and Stone’s series is canceled, it might just be the straw that broke the camel’s back. We would all be better off if he would pack his bags and head back to Alexandria or Cairo, wherever he came from.

Comment by HollywoodJeff on 7/28/10 at 9:39 pm

By this action Haim Saban shows that what Oliver Stone said about Jews dominating Hollywood is true. Strange that people like Haim Saban who put Israel First and who throw their power around are horrified when that power is pointed out.

Maybe Saban should leave this country and go to one where free speech is not allowed. He would be far happier there. i would even buy this billionaire a ticket out of here.

Comment by Janice on 7/28/10 at 9:51 pm

I never realized how Important it was to be a Veteran with 2 Purple Hearts And a Silver and Bronze star.When i was backing McCain and argued with liberals they always said to me Just because you served your country doesn’t make a political expert.How surprised i am to learn when a leftist is a Vet it makes him knowledgeable.In any event i was right, all Polls show Barack Hussein Obama’s ratings dropping like ton a lies

Comment by Mark on 7/29/10 at 5:39 am

Saban, who is a huge supporter of Israel and a major donor to the Democratic party >>>>>

Is this guy a billionaire idiot? If you are Jewish and love Israel then you should be a major donor to the Republican party and conservative candidates. Obama gets 5% approval in polls in Israel because those Jews are on the front line against Jihad and 0bama has proven himself to be pro-Jihad. They are literally under the gun, unlike American Jews who live in a nation where no brain is required to live nice and comfortable. The Democrat party is chock full of Jew haters and Israel haters

Wake up Saban. You became rich in America due to our free market capitalism yet you support the socialist Democrats. So many Jews are mindless liberal clones. I used to be one when younger but I grew a brain. My parents were ex-communists turned liberal and one was hauled in front of a Senate committee for his political beliefs. I had aunts and uncles who were commies. I had one that stayed a commie and loved to visit the USSR into the 1980s and show off her photographs. I grew out of that shtetl/Bolshie mentality and so can any Jew

Comment by Walk Hill St on 7/29/10 at 5:56 am

AMEN to Walk Hill St’s comments

Comment by Malka Shayna on 7/29/10 at 7:10 am

Thanks Malka…..
Furthermore (lol) I still like Mel Gibson. It’s disgusting that Some Hollywood Jews try to run him out of town. I never saw “Passion of the Christ” because I am Jewish. There is no need to see a video version of His demise. Books were always good enough. I like Mel because he has put out patriotic and inspiring movies. The Road Warrior movies were also good. I could care less about him insulting Jews and blacks because his good far outweighs his bad. It was so hard for me to watch our young soldiers die I couldn’t watch more than 20 minutes of “We Were Soldiers”

Oliver Stone is a total disgrace to all Jews because his father was Jewish. A shanda fur de goyim. Stone pals around with anti-Semitic thugs such as Amadinejad and Hugo Chavez. I met a Jewish escapee from Hugo’s Venezuela. Hugo brags he drinks 15 cups of Venezuelan coffee a day. That coca leaf chewing moron has ruined that nation

Moonbattery: Hugo Chavez Admits to Chewing Coca Daily
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/01/hugo_chavez_adm.html

Comment by Walk Hill St on 7/29/10 at 8:42 am

Walk Hill St may have grown out of his shtetl/Bolshie mentality but it has only made him stupid. Otherwise he would have realized that it was that “pro-Jihad socialist” Obama who saved the ass of his beloved “free market capitalism” when it threatened to bring our economy to its knees by bailing out Wall Street which is filled with Democrats as well as the big bankers which McCain’s base would never have let him get away with. As for McCain’s military record? He was high paid mercenary, killing people from the air, until he got shot down and collaborated with his Vietnamese captors. His dad participated in the cover-up of Israel’s bloody attack on the USS Liberty which I guess Walk Hill St isn’t troubled about, nor probably is his ditto-head.

Comment by HollywoodJeff on 7/29/10 at 8:45 am

OLIVER STONE LIKE ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS HAS A RIGHT TO HIS POINT OF VIEW.WHY MUST ALL OF YOU RANT AND RAVE ABOUT YOUR OWN AGENDAS.WHAT DOES OBAMA, REPUBLICANS VS. DEMOCRATS,COMMUNISM ,OR THE U.S.S LIBERTY ETC. HAVE TO DO WITH HIS COMMENTS? THE PEOPLE ON BOTH COASTS SEEM FROM HERE TO BE SOMEWHAT BENT OUT OF SHAPE.

Comment by indyview on 7/29/10 at 9:30 am

OF COURSE HERR STONE HAS A RIGHT TO HIS POINT OF VIEW MY INDYOT FRIEND. AND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO POINT UP HOW STUPID HE IS. DO YOU HAVE TROUBLE SEEING FROM THERE?

Comment by idiotview on 7/29/10 at 3:04 pm

It’s funny to watch people defend Stone’s obviously anti-Semitic comments; comments that read like they come out of Der Stirmer from the 30’s or out from David Duke’s newsletter. Imagine if equally offensive comments were made about blacks by someone doing a “documentary” about Africa.

The deeply stupid comments come from those who spew about Stone’s right to free speech. Get out your Big Chief tablets and your crayons and write this down: Stone has a right to speak his racist bile. We have the right to call him on it. Other people (even rich Democrat doners) have the right to make their displeasure known.

To HollywoodJeff and Janice: your Klan meeting has started. You don’t want to miss the cross-burning.

Comment by Don Kenner on 7/30/10 at 8:21 am

“Moonves is the great-nephew of David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister of Israel”

What Jewish domination of the media?

Comment by SPQR on 7/31/10 at 1:02 pm

Let’s examine Stone’s comments…

1) Hitler was a scapegoat.

Hitler was pushy but he didn’t start the war all by himself. England, France, Poland and USSR were all jockeying for power.

2) Holocaust wasn’t only a Jewish problem since Hitler killed many more Russians than Jews.

Hitler did kill more Russians than Jews. And that’s a fact. But some people are so invested in their own “victim” narrative that they can’t acknowledge the suffering of others.

3) Stone also blamed the power and influence of the Israel lobby AIPAC for a compromised U.S. foreign policy.

And yet billionaire Saban says, “I’m a one-issue guy, and my issue is Israel.” Haim even has a quote on the AIPAC website: “I commit to AIPAC because I don’t think there’s another entity that excels at reinforcing the US-Israeli relationship.” In other words, Saban wants AIPAC to influence foreign policy but he doesn’t want anyone to say it.

I did however notice this article left out Stone’s comment regarding Jewish influence in Hollywood. Maybe that’s because the article focused on Saban lobbying Jewish Hollywood executives to blackball Stone.

Saban might not like what Stone said but that doesn’t make what Stone said wrong.

Comment by fred on 7/31/10 at 2:30 pm

The problem with Stone’s remarks for his critics, is that he was telling the truth. The only disrespect shown to those Jews who died at the hands of the Nazis is displayed by those who have used it and abused those crimes to justify Israel’s own crimes against the Palestinians. The world is getting a little tired of their hypocrisy.

What accounts for the fact that there are so many US Holocaust museums, including the one in Washington, for a crime that was not committed here, if not for the power of the organized Jewish community? Where are the museums that reflect the far more destructive centuries of genocide against Native Americans in this country or of the 400 years that this country and the Europeans who settled it earlier kept millions of Africans and their descendants in slavery, that too, being a far greater crime, if crimes are to be measured.

Hollywood, of course, was a Jewish creation, and the industry continues to be dominated by Jews at every level. Patrick Goldstein writing in the LA Times, denied that and cited Brian Roberts, owner of ComCast and soon to the owner of NBC as a non-Jew when a simple Google search would have revealed he was another landsman, even having competed in the Maccabee Games in Tel Aviv. Another, Rupert Murdoch,may as well be, having been honored so many times by major Jewish organizations that the only thing he lacks now is a bar mitzvah.

As for Saban, he has done as much with his millions to subvert what’s left of American democracy as anyone I can think of not on Fox News and if there is to be a crackdown on immigrants, which I personally oppose, I would hope they would send Saban packing.

Comment by HollywoodJeff on 7/31/10 at 6:25 pm

Is there any reason to even call him an American?  He is an Israeli agent.  He is part of a fifth column in America.

Comment by PeteMoylan on 7/31/10 at 8:59 pm

Oliver Stone is Disgusting! I WILL NOT PAY MONEY TO SEE A STONE FILM ANYMORE and the fact the Hitlers soldiers killed so many russians in a war where both sides had guns ect. does NOT compare one bit to taking your own citizens, from germany, poland, ect..jews and murdering them in gas chambers and burning their bodies in Ovens to cover it up.
Genocide does not compare to armies fighting one another.

Comment by Jay on 7/31/10 at 11:02 pm

by the rationale the “Israelis justify treatment of palestinians” because they were abused? really? The Jews lost 6 million in the Concentration Camps in Europe, did you ever see any Israeli Planes Bomb Germany in the 50’s? does the Mossad make hits against German politicians? does Israel Boycott German goods? you would think so… but no, we move on…. however we will NEVER FORGET and NEVER LET THE WORLD FORGET that it did nothing to stop it.

Comment by Jay on 7/31/10 at 11:11 pm

Jay, without German reparations, Israel would not have survived in its early years, and it has pretty much been already thoroughly bombed by the US and Britain with whole cities largely destroyed, Dresden, Cologne,Hamburg.

The actions of Israel and the attitudes of Jews like yourself is making the world begin to see Israel in different eyes, not as the victim but as a junior version of Nazi Germany, not in the scale of its crimes, but in the openly racist attitudes expressed by its leaders and a host of its rabid rabbis that could have been lifted from Der Sturmer. The majority of Russians killed by the Nazis were not soldiers, but civilians and many died while resisting the Nazi wehrmacht. Were their lives of any less value than those of the Jews who were also Hitler’s victims?

Comment by HollywoodJeff on 8/01/10 at 8:16 am

Jim Traficant used the word “STRANGLEHOLD”.

Comment by Mogen David on 8/01/10 at 9:38 am

Wow, the bile and antisemitism posted above, in the “Jewish” Jornal no less, is surprising.  Wonder if all those Jews who fail to support Israel, fail to support Judaism, outmarry, and generally are oblivious to their religious obligations (a hateful word in this society) realize they have to a great extent caused and permitted this?

Comment by george on 8/01/10 at 2:20 pm

This has nothing to do with posters being Jewish or not. Nowhere is it written that everyone must support Israel whether Jewish or not. Nowhere is it written that people of good conscience must stand by and shut their mouths and minds when Israel is concerned.
It is not anti-Semitic to criticize Israel any more than it is anti-Chinese to criticize China or to criticize any other country. Israel is not and should not be a sacred cow.  It is also not anti-Semitic to acknowledge that Jews have a great deal of power in this country. Jews know that but they don’t want anyone to talk about it.

Comment by Janice on 8/01/10 at 2:59 pm

George, maybe you should consider being a decent human being first, unless that conflicts with your image as a Jew.

Comment by HollywoodJeff on 8/01/10 at 5:33 pm

Walker Hill makes a good point that the Republican Party is influenced or controlled by jew-worshippors who sell out red-blooded Americans by blowing billions for Israel and selling weapons to a nuclear country that has threatened our existence.

Comment by Bob Fairlane on 8/01/10 at 7:25 pm

junior version of Nazi Germany

So many Jews are mindless liberal clones.

I grew out of that shtetl/Bolshie mentality and so can any Jew

The world is getting a little tired

some people are so invested in their own “victim” narrative that they can’t acknowledge the suffering of others.

Republican Party is influenced or controlled by jew-worshippors who sell out red-blooded Americans

...guess that just about sums it up:

Jew/Israel supporter = not so good.

Comment by Howard E Davis on 8/02/10 at 9:04 pm

REMBERING THE LAST BLACKLISTENING!
Yeah! It was Communist Jews that time & Jews didn’t like it one bit. Now this Jewish BIGOT want’s to start a NEW BLACKLIST. Some Jews never learn! Its OK if the person is not “one of us”, but if non-Jews tried anything like that, we would scream ANTI-SEMITISM!!!

“The Israeli-American billionaire is reportedly campaigning among Hollywood’s higher-ups to have Stone—and his upcoming 10-part series, “A Secret History of America,” blacklisted”.

Comment by Larry Silverstein on 8/03/10 at 2:56 am

IS HAIM SABAN A MEMBER OF ADL? HE SOUNDS JUST LIKE ABE FOXMAN!

ADL is ANTI-CHRIST
Few familiar with the 97 year history of the Anti-Defamation League would deny its ambition to destroy the Christian/conservative right. ADL’s first great step was passing its federal hate crimes law last fall. The next stage was indicated last week by national director Abe Foxman. He said 80 million Americans are “anti-Semitic”—40 million “seriously infected” and 40 million “mildly” so.
What is Foxman’s reason for ensnaring so many in such a preposterously wide net? He is spinning a mythology that anti-Semitism in America is a “serious national problem”—one, like the “epidemic” of hate crimes, to be met with federal legislation.
Foxman is moving us toward a federal “anti-Semitism” law - probably under the expanded jurisdiction of ADL’s Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act. If Foxman has his way, it could become a federal hate crime to engage in speech he considers anti-Semitic: alleging Jews have too much power in government, finance, or media, as well as voicing “strong” criticism of Israel. It would also include the New Testament claim that Jews killed Christ.
To understand the future, know the past. Over the last 25 years, ADL has persuaded liberals that hate crimes had indeed escalated to the point of crisis—a crisis that only a federal hate law could cope with. ADL thinks big—the bigger the lie, the bolder ADL states it as fact.
But ADL does more than distort facts. It turns upside down the most fundamental terms and values that govern civilization.
In 1988, ADL sponsored a national competition to create a model anti-hate law for America. At the time, few outside Canada and Sweden had ever heard of a “hate crime.” From the beginning, ADL lassoed its conceptual hate crimes noose around the largest number of people. It redefined a characteristic we all possess for good or bad: “bias.” ADL blackened the reputation of all bias (except bias against Christian/conservative values). ADL made bias equivalent to “hate.” It then relentlessly conditioned police, educators, the media, etc., that prejudice and intolerance (i.e., hate) were so evil, especially when motivating a crime, that a biased criminal act should be punished with at least triple penalties.
Quantifying “Hate”
But did hate crimes of the magnitude ADL claims really exist? No. ADL had to create its own hate crime reality. In 1990, it persuaded Congress to enact its Hate Crimes Statistic Act, empowering the federal government to require annual reporting of hate crimes from the states. ADL also instructed police in America on its twisted definitions, permitting them to report to the FBI as a “hate crime” any altercation, name-calling, or accusation which police believed was motivated by bias. As a result, ADL was able to “document” about 7500 hate crimes annually. At least 95 percent were never determined to be an actual crime in a court of law. Even when so ludicrously inflated, such “crimes” constitute 1/15 th of 1 percent of actual, documented annual crime in America.
Yet the sleight of hand worked. After sensitizing America to the threat of “hate,” and stacking up an annual 7500 “hate crimes,” ADL was able to dramatize the “epidemic” of hate enough to put President Obama’s signature on the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2010.
The federal hate law now exalts homosexuals, Jews, blacks, Muslims and women with preferential rights to federal hate crimes protection. The only reason the hate law has not been implemented with the kind of persecutive force felt in Canada, Sweden, and Australia is that the Christian/conservative right (very largely educated by the National Prayer Network over the past 20 years) has at last made hate laws an extremely volatile issue. Indeed, this issue could unseat Democrats in November. Nevertheless, ADL’s federal law pulsates in its potential to persecute Christians and conservatives as soon as the time is favorable.
ADL doesn’t want to wait. Ever proactive, ADL now wants the public to believe that the potential hate crime of anti-Semitism pervades America especially among Christians and conservatives. To this end, Foxman began his latest video with the biggest lie he could muster: that 45 years ago, one of three Americans was “seriously infected” with anti-Semitism. That’s nearly 65 million people! This incredibly audacious lie is to confirm ADL’s constant assertion that America has a long and stubborn history of Jew hatred residing in the “extremist” right - bigotry which ADL and its 45 state hate laws helped subdue. Foxman implies that with 80 million anti-Semites in America today, we must more than ever depend on ADL.
In 1965, when a third of Americans were supposedly anti-Semitic, I was a freshman in college. In my entire life to that time, outside of our family, I cannot remember hearing Israel or Jews criticized. Forty-five years ago, Israel was riding a titanic wave of popularity—practically the whole western world unconditionally cheered its “miraculous” rebirth. Israel was not criticized for its terrorist expropriation of 800,000 Palestinians in 1948 or any of its actions in the 1967 or 1973 wars against the Arabs. Except for its participation in the 1982 Sabra and Shatila massacres in Lebanon, there was almost no worldwide criticism of Israel’s saturation bombing of 19,500 innocent refugees in southern Lebanon. Not until Sharon’s brutal invasion of the West Bank in 2002 did world opinion significantly rise against Israel. It has especially escalated since the 2009 siege of Gaza, and recently, its terrorist raid on the “Free Gaza” flotilla, killing nine activists.
In 1965, there did exist a small minority of opinion critical of Jewish supremacism, largely subsisting off earlier information provided by voices such as Winston Churchill, Charles Lindberg, Father Coughlin, Gerald L. K. Smith, and Elizabeth Dilling. The largest emerging anti-Zionist voice came from Liberty Lobby out of Washington, DC. Yet such relatively underground dissent did not translate into any appreciable degree of popular criticism of Jews or Israel. Where does Foxman, then, get his figure of 1 in 3 Americans at that time being “seriously infected” with anti-Semitism? It comes from the same place he gets his assertion that 80 million Americans are Jew haters—his creativity as a liar. Such incredible prevarication springs from his desire to condition the American public that anti-Semitism, like hate crimes, is now a much greater national epidemic than anyone imagined. Foxman, a primary architect of the federal hate bill knows exactly what he is doing—what works.
With great forethought, he thus defines in his latest video that anti-Semitism is belief in the New Testament account that the Jews had Christ killed —implicating as anti-Semites all Bible-believing Christians worldwide. Foxman claims that, from the time of the church fathers, the charge that Jews were “Christ-killers” has been a homicidally destructive feature of Christianity. It, more than anything else, has provided fuel for the ovens of Dachau and Auschwitz. In his book, Never Again: The Threat of the New Anti-Semitism, Foxman says of European Christians what he largely still believes about many Bible-believing Christians today: “...the political and social atmosphere in which the persecution and killing of millions of Jews could be seen as broadly acceptable could not have existed without the tacit acceptance of the Christian churches, as well as the ingrained anti-Semitism of 20 centuries of dogma, doctrine and preaching that demonized Jews.” He quotes Eli Wiesel, “…the killings could not have happened without the sins of millions of Christians, sins of commission as well as sins of omission.” (pg. 94)
Foxman contends that Christianity’s anti-Semitism is so intrinsic that belief in a literal interpretation of the New Testament remains a potent threat to the Jewish people. Thus, Christianity’s capacity to create more Holocausts won’t end until laws in every nation proscribe public proclamation of New Testament teaching, especially concerning the Jews. Such “anti-Semitism” includes Christian evangelism of Jews, which Foxman in his book says, “is inherently anti-Semitic in that it implicitly denigrates the value of Jewish belief.” (pg. 138)
ADL: Anti-Semitism is a “Disease”
In Foxman’s latest video, he also insinuates that the 80 million Americans “infected” with anti-Semitism are victims of a disease. This suggests that criticism of matters Jewish is a psychiatric disorder. Foxman’s Bolshevik forbearers confined critics of Jewish communists, not just to prisons, but psychiatric hospitals. Reputable Swedish evangelists testify that under Sweden’s ADL-inspired hate law, just criticizing Jews or Israel can land you in a psychiatric hospital for up to a year of drug rehabilitation—even before trial!
I had hoped the power of the evangelical right could thwart the momentum of ADL’s federal hate law. It couldn’t—very largely because leaders of the New Right knew ADL was behind hate laws and feared being called “anti-Semitic” by criticizing a venerable Jewish “civil liberties” organization. Their fear of ADL still exceeds their fear of a Christian-persecuting Gestapo – and, I believe, their fear of a God who commands they speak the whole, undiminished truth.
ADL is now in stage two, encircling the religious right with its “noose” of accusation, negatively stereotyping Bible-believers as those who portray Jews as “Christ-killers.” Will Christian/conservative leaders still refuse to publicly acknowledge ADL’s threat to the survival of Christianity? Probably. As ADL pushes for punishment of anti-Semitism under the present federal hate law, it knows Evangelical leaders will never want to seem to be in favor of anti-Semitism by opposing such inclusion. Far from exposing and resisting ADL such leaders will doubtless continue to respond to ADL in a way that delights it and is crucial to its ultimate success.
They give ADL what it wants most from them: silence.

Comment by Larry Silverstein on 8/03/10 at 3:01 am

Reagan had to treat the New York Jews with kid gloves in 1980 or he would not have been elected. Early on in the election there were signs that the Commie/Bolshe mentality so prevalent in New York would cream him. And maybe that is why our wonderful Jewish media moguls have banned the TV Classic “I LED 3 LIVES” from being seen!

Comment by Mogen David on 8/06/10 at 1:20 pm

I think that jews in Germany got their asses handed to them for stirring up war sentiment against Germany in US and England. They were put in prison or made to build weapons for the war efforts. The germans cut off their dreadlocks and hosed down their clothes to kill the lice off the lousy meddlers, and they claim that “6 million” people were gassed in showers. I think the funerals for soap bars just make Americans more determined to throw off Aipac and Israel.

Israel says it’s got our back, but that usually means a knife in their hand when we turn around.

Comment by Bob Fairlane on 8/08/10 at 11:13 pm

re: belief that jews killed Christ 2000 years ago makes one “anti-semitic”.

People become anti-jewish because of all this “anti-semitism” crap. White people are tired of these thought-crime laws and a handful of middle eastern people telling us what to do. The US sucks ass for Israel, and its never enough for them. I think we should tell ya’ll to find a new buddy, its not working for us. Good luck with all those other semites, esp the sword and AK waving crazies whose wives wear body bags to work and whose kids practice blowing themselves up in subways.
A lot of jews in Israel brag for Youtube about how jews killed Christ. Doesn’t the Talmud gloat that Christ boils in a cauldron of excrement? What gives?

Either way, so what. The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, but I don’t think I need to blame all the Japanese for it today. Our countries already duked it out.

Comment by Bob Fairlane on 8/08/10 at 11:19 pm

The Jews living in America have had it pretty good, but many are attracted to this dual-citizen jazz which is un-American. They got the House Committee on Un-American Activities shut down, invoked a special White House Jewish Affairs post funded with taxpayer dollars, and the classic favoritism to a foreign nation that began on May 8, 1948. A fellow Jew, Dr. Alan Sabrowsky from the U.S. Army War College has stated that “9-11 was a Mossad Job”. When this “Genie” eventually crawls out of the bottle, it will be all over.

Comment by Mogen David on 9/06/10 at 3:37 pm

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