I had heard something about this.  But here is an article.  This doesn’t bode well for Israel at all if he becomes - G-d forbid! - President of the U.S.

http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/Obama_Church_Racism/2008/01/07/62285.html

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Newsmax
Type Monthly newsmagazine
Format Magazine

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Owner Newsmax Media, Inc.
Editor Christopher W. Ruddy
Founded September 16, 1998
Headquarters 560 West Village Boulevard, Suite 120
West Palm Beach, FL 33409
ISSN 1546-5497

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Website: http://www.newsmax.com
Newsmax Media is a news organization founded by journalist Christopher W. Ruddy and based in West Palm Beach, Florida. It runs the Newsmax.com website and publishes Newsmax Magazine. Ruddy, who serves as editor-in-chief, describes Newsmax.com as “the leading independent online news site with a conservative perspective.”[1]

History
Christopher W. Ruddy started up Newsmax.com on September 16, 1998, supported by a group of conservative investors, including the family of the late CIA Director William J. Casey. Later Richard Mellon Scaife, his former employer at the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review and a supporter of conservative causes, invested in the fledging company.[2] One of the initial board members was author James Dale Davidson who edited a financial newsletter that had shared Ruddy’s interest in the Vincent Foster case. Davidson’s co-editor, Lord Rees-Mogg, former editor of the The Times and Vice Chair of the BBC, later became chairman of Newsmax Media.[3]

Other news figures who later joined the Newsmax board included Arnaud de Borchgrave, the longtime Newsweek chief correspondent who also serves as editor at large of UPI and Jeff Cunningham, former publisher of Forbes. The late Admiral Thomas Moorer, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who helped bring the Vietnam War to a close, also served as one of the company’s founding board members. Former Nixon Chief of Staff and Secretary of State Alexander M. Haig Jr. has served as special advisor to NewsMax.[1]

Ruddy aimed at creating an Internet news company by building a team of reporters instead of working alone. Some of these, like Carl Limbacher and Missy Kelly, were people known for posting on a Whitewater-related bulletin board at Prodigy (which also produced Jim Robinson, founder of Free Republic).[4] In August 2001, talk radio host Michael Reagan merged his monthly newsletter The Reagan Monitor with Newsmax Magazine and began writing a regular column for the publication.[5]

According to financial records for 2000 and 2001, Newsmax operated at a gross profit margin of 56.9 percent and 44.1 percent respectively, but corresponding operating income losses of $4.3 and $4.1 million resulted in net losses of $4.1 and $4.0 million.[2]

Controversial articles

After the mysterious disappearance of Chandra Levy in 2001, contributor John LeBoutillier allegedly posted a speculative column on the site about the sex life of Representative Gary Condit, with whom Levy had an affair. The column quickly circulated among media members, even though NewsMax editors pulled it from the site.[9]

On May 26, 2000, Newsmax published an article claiming Hillary Clinton refused to meet with the Gold Star Mothers.[4] According to the Gold Star Mothers organization, this was false and “Senator Clinton greeted us graciously on Gold Star Mothers Sunday, 2005. This story was also debunked at other websites[5] and eventually led to a retraction by NewsMax.[6]

A 2005 NewsMax.com report about Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, claiming he was “teaming up” with rock band U2 for a fund raiser, gained considerable attention. Santorum had actually purchased 66 tickets to a sold-out show and was reselling these to campaign supporters at $1,000 per seat. The band issued a statement denying it was involved in the practice, saying, “U2 concerts are categorically not fund-raisers for any politician; they are rock concerts for U2 fans.”[10] Rather than admitting the error and issuing a correction, NewsMax simply changed its article about the fund-raiser without telling readers it had been changed, stating that the story was misinterpreted.[7]

During the debate over the failed 2007 Immigration Bill, Newsmax popularized opposition to an alleged “North American Union,” a distopian vision of a future America where “NAU citizens no longer spend dollars or salute Old Glory. They spend “ameros.” [8] The “North American Union” is considered a conspiracy theory by popular conservatives such as Michael Medved [9], and has been debunked in the mainstream media. [10]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsMax

Nothing smells of fear and desperation like trying to pass off a right-wing cyber-tabloid as Journalistic Integrity. Go teach english, you lazy piece of sh*t, instead of living on the backs of Israeli taxpayers while wasting time on the internet.

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I will not talk to you as long as you continue talking in that manner.

(The following is not copyrighted)

An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: “argument to the man”, “argument against the man”) consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim. The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject.

It is most commonly used to refer specifically to the ad hominem abusive, or argumentum ad personam, which consists of criticizing or personally attacking an argument’s proponent in an attempt to discredit that argument.

Other common subtypes of the ad hominem include the ad hominem circumstantial, or ad hominem circumstantiae, an attack which is directed at the circumstances or situation of the arguer; and the ad hominem tu quoque, which objects to an argument by characterizing the arguer as acting or arguing in accordance with the view that he is arguing against.

I frankly don’t care if a given church identifies as ‘Black’ or talks up some kind of ‘Black’ value system. I have my own football, and they can play with theirs. I may think my values have value and theirs are foolish but there is room on earth for fools. But when I see bigoted treatment of the Jewish State and whitewashing of Louis Farrakhan, (and he is featured in the churches magazine this month), then I smell evil and corruption.

To me the operatives part of the article were in the statements

“In sermons and interviews, Dr. Wright has equated Zionism with racism and Israel with South Africa under its previous policy of apartheid. On the Sunday after 9/11, Wright said the attacks were a consequence of violent American policies. Four years later, Wright suggested that the attacks were retribution for America’s racism…

As for Israel, “The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now,” Wright has said. “Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.”

Obviously it is not Obama saying those things, in public at least. And he is free to attend where he wishes. But he is obviously not offended by them either, and as I have noted elsewhere, the racism test is reversibility. If you can substitute ‘white’ for ‘black’ and have a different reaction, then the original statement was racist.

I often see damaging material on antisemitic websites. They may be outright lies or exaggerations or taken out of context. Is anyone suggesting that is true of the churches views and policies?

I also must strongly register my protest against your denigration of Chaya, a real Jewish Israeli who has committed her life and well-being to the substance and betterment of Israel the land and the nation, unlike me of course who has no right to speak although I do anyway and is a sinner every day for remaining in the Galus.

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Ben -

I don’t know what you do, but you are an incredibly intelligent person!  I sent this page to Newsmax.  Hopefully, someone will come here and post a response. 

Isn’t Obama’s belonging to this church a bit like being a member of a country club that bars non-Whites/non-Christians? 

Even though ‘all I do’ is teach English as a second language, I try to my ‘little bit’ for Israel.  I’ve been here for twenty-three years - originally from New Jersey. 

So, what’s keeping you from coming?  {:>)  You’re needed for the human chain around Yerushalayim!!

Anybody have a box of kleenex?

“I also must strongly register my protest against your denigration of Chaya, a real Jewish Israeli who has committed her life and well-being to the substance and betterment of Israel the land and the nation”

Really Rifka? What proof do you have of that? As far as I can tell she’s another freeloader, who would like to use this forum to promote racism while claiming some halachic mandate to do so. As long as she continues to do this, I’m gonna continue to urinate on her everyday, so she better get used to it. What is she? You’re girlfriend? Does your wife know? Would you like to defend her honor, Yankele? I’ll tell you what. Give me your real name and address, John Doe. I’ll fly to NYC and give you a chance. What do you say, Prince Valiant?

I know many settlers who have been in the State of Israel for over 20 years and are still collecting monthly stpends from the gov’t. You haven’t done anything except to drain the coffers of the state, sweetheart. I’m sure had you stayed in NJ, nobody would’ve missed you.

“So, what’s keeping you from coming?”

Yankele has a rare condition known in the latin as; “sans testiculi” Maybe you should find yourself another boyfriend.

Post Edited (01-07-08 15:51)

(oh well, my personal explanation of ‘ad hominem’ would not have been as intelligent as the thing I quoted… but the principle still holds. MD did not address the point being made but the source.)

As far as not coming, it is just the story of my life. Hopefully not quite over yet.
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Now as to Chaya, I am taking her at her word just like I take you at yours. And I have not heard you say that you bought the land you live on, or fought for the land you live on, or that you or your family have lived on the land you live on any longer than Jews of Clan Judah have lived on land THEY bought in Jerusalem, Chevron, Tfat, Tiveria. What I hear is that as a kibbutz member anytime after the days of Golda someone bought you your land, or allocated you your land, or subsidized your land. What you call settlers came to live on bare hilltops when it wasn’t quite so easy, but now that you got yours, you put down the people doing what you only brag about.

And judging by the continuing direct and indirect costs of evicting the civilized residents of Gaza, it looks like the cheapest and best investment you can make is to help the settlers and save Yesha.

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“What you call settlers came to live on bare hilltops when it wasn’t quite so easy, but now that you got yours, you put down the people doing what you only brag about.”

Nonsense, coward. Moving into a house bought and paid for BY SOMEONE ELSE, built on land fought for and captured BY SOMEONE ELSE, is not being a halutz. What you are instead, is a chanich at a summer camp that never closes, that you’ve never had to pay for, nor do you ever have any intentions of doing so, either in substance or in lucre.

He reminds me of the school bully who kept taunting someone until they punched his lights out!

No, No. sweetie. I’ve given my name here several times. You can find my address in any Los Angeles phone book. Anybody who wants to come and kick my ass is welcome to try. If the Son of John Doe would like to try his hand at something other than jerking off, I for one would find it refreshing.  Bring it on.

Post Edited (01-07-08 16:32)

Los Angeles? Los Angeles?? LOS! ANGELES! What the hell is this?

Here I thought you were out there battling snakes and scorpions in the desert, draining swamps, herding cattle and whatnot! Who are you to tell anyone else about where they live? Oh, sure, you lived there, but now you have returned to the Holy Land to die?

No. I wanted to go to University in Israel after I finished the Army and discovered that my hebrew wasn’t up to the task. I stayed for a couple of more years, working on the meshek. Afterwards, I went back to the states to get my degree. I stayed after graduating, because I doubted my abilty to make a living in my profession in the Israeli economy of that time. I met my wife in the Army. She went off to school in Israel. When I graduated, I reconnected after 10 years. We got married in Israel and returned to the states, as my business was and is a going concern. In as much as I love Israel,  my first loyalty is to the financial well being of myself and my family.

And if you had noticed the tag line by my handle, you might’ve figured out where I live.

One other thing. I never claimed to be a halutz. I made aliyah because I have been a lifelong zionist and it seemed like the proper thing to do was to put my money where my mouth was and do what I could. If only others shared the same principles, eh Rifkah?

My son is learning Hebrew at a prodigous rate. Because of Miki’s family and our extensive and strong connection to Israel, he’ll have a strong connection to the state and his legacy. It is our hope that Gideon will go to universtiy in Israel. As Michal and I are older parents, we will go in life wherever Gidon goes.

Post Edited (01-07-08 20:31)

Lol.

  Dave is so cool!!

Thank You, Pat. right back at ya (-:

I wouldn’t go that far, but I appreciate the break in the insanity. It was certainly a lucky opportunity for you to go to Israel as a lifelong Zionist. You did not tell and I won’t ask what obstacles and opposition you had to overcome to do that, also considering you were a single young man. Unless they were much greater than it appears, and even then, it is not appropriate for you to assume that the language and financial obstacles you face now are less so for any other people, or to attribute any other reasons for why people make their choices.

There was no luck involved here. I had been spoon fed Israel and zionism since I had been 5.  As far as obstacles were concerned,  there were none. The sachnut and the Ministry of Absorbtion were very helpful. Prior to making aliyah, I had been working and saving my money to pay for the trip and for any expenses involved with my move. I didn’t know a word of spoken hebrew aisde from what I had picked up during my years in the tnuah, but the kibbutz and the army, and later my-wife-to-be managed to teach me anyway,  poor student that I was. God bless em’

No. There were no obstacles. All that was needed was a strength of will. Some people have it, others don’t. Simple as that.

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